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FORWARDED TO TECHDIVER FOR GEORGE
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:42:55 -0700
From: gmiiii@in*.co* [gmiiii@in*.co*]
Sender: Maiser@co*.ci*.uf*.ed* [Maiser@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*]
Reply-to: cavers@co*.ci*.uf*.ed* [cavers@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*]
Subject: Re: DEEP THOUGHTS
The techdiver list is replete with those who
feel there is an ability to dive deep on air. We
all, in fact can do it quite well, according to this
measure (the self-measurement of the impaired diver).
The fact is that most of us have done it, and I am
a major offender. I like to get high as much as the
next guy, and having a bigger ego than any of you,
I think I can do it better. However, I also have
extensive physiological knowledge related to this
sport, and know it is a real problem in that regard.
I also know it is dangerous . I also know that gas
works better in both regards. For these reasons I
dive gas , and I recommend it to others. I will
also recommend that we not use tolerance of impairment
as a measure of ability, because this chages unpredictably,
and the consequences are well documented. Please ignore
the efforts of some to present dangerous practices as
a good thing, they are just not in possession of all of
the facts, no matter what they say. I think any of you
who know the rigors of cave diving can see that the
offenders have no clue as to what real skill is.
Somebody needs to forward this to techdiver, since I
have removed myself from that list due to the fact that
in between advertising and deep air, the neophytes and
crybabies clogg the traffic. - George Irvine
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From: gmiiii@in*.co*
To: "Cave Divers List" <cavers@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
Subject: Re: DEEP THOUGHTS
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:42:55 -0700
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From: gmiiii@in*.c
Subject: Re: DEEP THOUGHTS
Date: 10/05
Time: 04:49 PM
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:42:55 -0700
From: gmiiii@in*.co* [gmiiii@in*.co*]
Sender: Maiser@co*.ci*.uf*.ed* [Maiser@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*]
Reply-to: cavers@co*.ci*.uf*.ed* [cavers@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*]
Subject: Re: DEEP THOUGHTS
The techdiver list is replete with those who
feel there is an ability to dive deep on air. We
all, in fact can do it quite well, according to this
measure (the self-measurement of the impaired diver).
The fact is that most of us have done it, and I am
a major offender. I like to get high as much as the
next guy, and having a bigger ego than any of you,
I think I can do it better. However, I also have
extensive physiological knowledge related to this
sport, and know it is a real problem in that regard.
I also know it is dangerous . I also know that gas
works better in both regards. For these reasons I
dive gas , and I recommend it to others. I will
also recommend that we not use tolerance of impairment
as a measure of ability, because this chages unpredictably,
and the consequences are well documented. Please ignore
the efforts of some to present dangerous practices as
a good thing, they are just not in possession of all of
the facts, no matter what they say. I think any of you
who know the rigors of cave diving can see that the
offenders have no clue as to what real skill is.
Somebody needs to forward this to techdiver, since I
have removed myself from that list due to the fact that
in between advertising and deep air, the neophytes and
crybabies clogg the traffic. - George Irvine
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From @nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu:gmiiii@in*.co* Thu Oct 05 16:49:29
1995 [PIM 3.2-213.46]
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From: gmiiii@in*.co*
To: "Cave Divers List" <cavers@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
Subject: Re: DEEP THOUGHTS
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:42:55 -0700
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