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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 09:51:42 -0700
From: atikkan@ix*.ne*.co* (EE Atikkan)
Subject: Re: Nitrox and Altitude Diving
To: fdc02@ix*.ne*.co* (Doug Chapman )
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
You wrote: 
>
>Dr.A.A Buhlmann, a medical type, in is published book, "Decompression 
- 
>Decompression Sickness," Rev.2 provides the following table in regards 

>to O2 at altitude.
>
>
>                            0 to 150meters  3500meters  7500meters
>Ambient Pressure                1.0 Bar       .68 Bar     .38 Bar
>Pressure of Inspired Oxygen     .196 Bar      .129 Bar    .066 Bar
>Pressure of Inspired Nitrogen   .74 Bar       .487 Bar    .250 Bar
>1 Bar = 1.01325 ATA 
>
>The fraction of O2 can be calculated from the data provided.
>                            0 to 150meters  3500meters  7500meters
>Fraction of Oxygen              .196          .189        .173
>
>If you believe Dr. Buhlmann's data then the fraction of O2 in the 
>atmosphere also changes as well as the partial pressure (function of 
>the O2 fraction anyway). There are other sources not close at hand 
>which can provide more extensive data on atmospheric content at 
>altitude. But then again as someone has already mentioned I don't 
think 
>we are planning a dive on K2.
>
>Mr. Carl Heinzl wrote Oct 1, 1995 to Eric Maiken:
>>I appreciate your posting on this matter, however, no one has as yet 
>>posted any factual physiological information on why a diver would be 
>>hypoxic at altitude after a dive.
>
>On Sept.30, I wrote:
>>If you were breathing normoxic air from a tank at 33 ft @ 7,000ft you 

>>would be breathing a partial pressure of oxygen of about .37 ATA O2 
>>(.21 x 1.77), well above any hypoxia concerns. If you were breathing 
>>the air from the tank at the surface @ 7000 ft, you would have an O2 
>>partial pressure of about .16 ATA (.21 x .77) which is where you may 
>>begin to experience some minor signs of hypoxia. 
>Presto you are hypoxic at the end of the dive!
>
>In this last case a Nitrox mix > 21% would keep you above the .16 ATA. 

>However as soon as you took the redulator out of your mouth you drop a 

>little below .16 ATAs O2 due to the reduced atmosphere and O2 
fraction.
>You would be hypoxia before you started the dive anyways.
>
>However I suspect you are looking for an answer to another question 
>rather than atmospheric O2 partial pressure requirements to sustain 
>proper body function. I did find an interesting bit of information 
from 
>Dr. Buhlmann. He states "The adaptation to high altitude mainly 
>concerns the erythropoisesis with the development of polyglobulia, 
with 
>which the circulatory system's capacity to transport oxygen is 
>increased. The affinity of hemoglobin for oxygen decreases somewhat, 
>which causes an increase in the PO2 in tissues." Go figure! 
>Unfortunately Dr. Buhlmann is dead and can't comment.
>
>Doug Chapman
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Doug,
Are those values fraction inspired gas or the alveolar/arterial ppO2.

The lungs are saturated with H20, thus @ sea level the 45 mmHg has to 
be added, + there is CO2 wh/ adds the equivalent amount.  

At altitude, the lungs continue to be saturated & CO2 is present.  They 
then account for a proportinately higher % of inspired air, and 
alveolar/arterial air becomes that much deficient in O2 (and N2).

Sorry don't have the excat numbers, but the vapor P can be calculated.

Regards
Esat Atikkan

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