Carl, what many people don't realize is the serious insult to the microcirculatory system from diving high PPN2's. Many also mistake the body and mind's tolerance system - it is really a numbing response. When one dives narcotic mixes, the slow onset generally prevents the feeling of impact, and since the higher order brain functions are effected first, as with any anesthetic, the now gradually impared reasoning tells you everything is ok, much like any drug or alcholol. The ego then defends this line of reasoning, as with any mood altering substance, right to the surface, further entrecnching the concept. A good example of how it sneaks, for those who's ego tells then their higher order functions could not conceiveably be impaired is the Frog concept: if you place a frog in boiling water, he will jump out (if you start a diver on air at 200 feet, he will feel the difference clearly). If you put the frog in luke- warm water and slowly bring the water to boil, he will die there. Experience of the the commercial and military, as well as recreational community is that noticable impariment should begin around 130 fsw, while any increase of ppn2 is worse than the previous increment, so 20 feet is worse than 10. It is only the "so called" technical agencies who have redifined this to narcotic depths, and attached some significance to tolerance of mind altering chemicals or drugs. Those with the biggest egos think they can handle the most depth on air. Those who know better do not. I am one of latter: my ego is so big that I would not want to look foolish, so I dive less than 130 aed. - George
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