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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 01:47:28 -29900
From: Nick Simicich <njs@sc*.ma*.co*>
Subject: Re: no updated messages
To: techdiver@terra.net
On Fri, 15 Sep 1995, Bernie Chowdhury wrote:

> I haven't received any updated messages on the techdiver list since Sept 12
> (it's now the 14th).  I suspect that I've reached my limit on in-coming
> messages that can be listed.  How do I get rid of the old messages?  Or is
> this supposed to happen automatically?
> 
> Please reply to my personal e-mail address.

You are probably the luckiest son-of-a-bitch on the whole techdiver 
list.  I had to *read* all that damned traffic.  My D finger is sore.

You should address comments about how to work your e-mail system to your 
provider's tech suupport address, and not to us.

Besides, if you can't get e-mail, how do you expect us to e-mail you?  
For that matter, why am I bothering?

Sorry, three hours sleep three nights straight.  I'm ready to dive on air 
to 200 feet.  I doubt I'd notice the additional impairment. :-)

My personal preference, even though I'm a Howard Stern fan, is for more 
of the subtle flaming.  I guess I like well constructed arguments that 
make chowder out of an opponent without them realizing that they have 
been minced until the boiling water is applied near the end of the 
process.  You draw them out with apparrent friendliness until you get 
them to show the whole world what a fool they are without you having to 
say anything (except perhaps an occasional quote of authority.

For example, I would give a ten to George (and buy him Sushi if he showed 
up in Boca even though we had no bet) if the exchange had gone more like 
this:

G: So, Tom, what you up to lately?

T: Oh, setting the world's standards for cave/techdiving.

G: Say, I've just read the latest fax to all IANTD Technical Instructors 
and NSS-CDS Cave Instructors, and I have to say, I'm pretty impressed.  
(Note that this is still the drawing out stage - you don't say that the 
impression you got was to head to the toilet, puke up dinner, and then 
fax it to everyone who asked so that they would get the joke, too.)

T:  Yeah?  Gosh, thanks.

G:  Say, how would you suggest that we carry stage bottles on opposite 
sides in the following system/through the following conditions....

and then let him proceed to make fool of himself - or provide 
justification.  But since you believe that he can't provide justification 
for his 'standards' you have noting to worry about.

Besides, if he manages to squirm out of that one, you always have deep 
air to go after.

But this, "Let us get off on the proper foot, lick my ball bag stuff." No 
artistry, no composition, no follow through.  Furthermore, you leave the 
other guy both feeling good and looking good by comparison.   You aren't 
giving the other guy the opportunity to make the proper fool of himself.

Perhaps I've been in this net stuff too long, and I've observed too many 
artists at work.  But I think you have to leave some room at the top of 
the scale.  So I just can't award a ten for that.

Nick Simicich - njs@sc*.em*.ne* - (last choice) njs@bc*.vn*.ib*.co*
http://scifi.emi.net/njs.html -- Stop by and Light Up The World!

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