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From: chris@ot*.cl*.sc*.ed* (Chris Elmore)
Subject: Thinking about George Irvine
To: techdiver@terra.net (Tech Diver)
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 1995 19:29:47 -0400 (EDT)
     Those of you who have been on this list for awhile
 know that I'm no neophyte concerning invoking George Irvine's
 venomous keyboard. We finally took it off line and achieved
 a mutual respect for each other. I came to realize that
 George's temperament is fired by a passion for safety and an
 intolerance for those who advocate operations in the gray zone.
 George has been around too many friends and strangers who have
 died in the gray zone. Last November I made it back from the gray
 zone; my dive partner didn't. When I heard that George had been
 removed from the list I wondered if anyone would pay the ultimate
 price because no one was there to tell (scream at) them that what
 they were doing was dangerous.
       I'll agree with all the arguments that George is arrogant,
 uncivil, and lacks in effective diplomacy (On the list). Lately,
 his postings have been much more substantial with the only decline
 in s/n coming from people who are (apparently) deliberately baiting
 him. I detest wading through the vulgar and profane writing as much
 as anyone but I'll gladly put up with it if there's a chance that I
 might glean something that will keep me, my friends, or even strangers
 from dying. Think about holding your buddy while he takes his last
 breath. Think about telling the sheriff and coroner what happened
 (over and over again). Think about explaining to his family why
 this happened. Think about the looks and whispered comments at his
 funeral. Think about reading an autopsy report of someone you really
 liked. Think about having to think about it EVERY DAY.
       Is a little insult to our sensibilities too much to pay?
 Think about it.

 C.

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Chris Elmore				 University of South Carolina
chris@ot*.cl*.sc*.ed*		              CLA Computer Lab
(803)-777-7840 		  		     Columbia, S.C. 29208

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