Rich, great post. Don't worry about "being long-winded", I am sure there are others besides me that appreciate the fact that you have put a lot of effort into sharing your opinion and experience. What you may not know, being in a somewhat isolated\ paradise in Hawaii doing scientific diving, is that tec diving has degenerated into macho thing. People are taught that depth is the achievement, and that more gear is necessary, and that more deco and complication are the measures of susccess. These people don;t see what you and I see when the go diving. For example, when I go out on the local tec boat, I have them drop me on the reef, and pick me up on the way in. The others load up the doubles and the gear witht the multi bottles and dive on one little wreck. Afterwars, the converstion is about how deep, how much deco, what each computer said, etc. - George
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