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Well, it looks like Mount is trying to worm his way out
of the deep nitrox, at least that's a start. When you get
an answer to this call Jim Fernandez' family and tell them.
Don't' forget, Tom, before you answer, who did the body
recovery. You can call his family and tell them I am childish.
You are the one who is childish - too childishly stubborn to
fix what is wrong with you standards.
And let me say this - I am still trying to correct the
bullshit you taught Bill Mee about diving, cave diving,
and mixed gas diving. You took a perfectly good diver
and ruined him.
Let me also remind all of you - we don't accept IANTD
standards for ANY WKPP dives. They will not be tolerated.
This is in writing, on file with the State of Florida and with
the U.S. Government. Argue with that . You show up with that
bullshit, you don't dive with us. GET THE MESSAGE,TOM.
And Tom, look closely at the signature on the message.
You are forgetting that I will say anything to anybody anyplace
at anytime, as you well know when you run into me on a dive
boat. Why would I alter someone else's message when I know
that noone knows who Bill Mee is? (For those who care, Bill is
one of our engineers. He is also a diver, but due to the fact
that Mount ruined him, I use him mostly to run the safety
crew and equipment. He also does gas setup dives.) Mount
has a way of making this sport so unpleasant and so unconfortable,
that most people who are trained by him are useless, and in fact
cause more problems than they solve. The problem is that
people just believe their instructors, and if you get a bad one,
you're screwed. I got lucky, I got a good one.
- G
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From: GEORGE M IRVINE II
Subject: mee/george/iantd
Date: 09/14
Time: 02:38 PM
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 14:04:24 EDT
From: GEORGE M IRVINE III [UXMA73A@pr*.co*]
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Tom, I will agree to stop telling the truth about you,
if you will agree to quit lying about me. And while you are
at it, maybe you could give us just one justification for
your standards. Stick with the issues, I will handle the
humor. - George
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From: iantd
Subject: mee/george/iantd
Date: 09/13
Time: 06:46 PM
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 17:05:26
From: iantd [iantdhq@ga*.ne*]
Subject: mee/george/iantd
I called Bill Mee, as he is a good friend and former student, after
his
posting blasting IANTD, according to what Bill stated to me:
1. he wrote a private non IANTD directed e mail and someone (I
imagine George
Strokes Irvin ) added the first paragraph and several other
references to IANTD
then posted it.
2. Bill was certified in cave by tom mount also in tech eanx and
trimix.
3. After being certified in the above Bill quit diving to 270 on air
and
started using mix, maybe IANTD had a favorable influence on him
4. It was long after that before George discontinued his practice of
hot EANx
mixes and hot trimixes remember george your 25% o2 sneak mix to 270+
5. Orginally george attacked IANTD for being weenies who were to
conservative
on nitrox and depth, guess he most have seen the light and is now the
apostle
thank god
this is my closest approach to an response to arguements. I do think
IANTd has
had a positive effect on the safety issues of tech diving.Even among
george
and many of his associates. I also thought George had made an
agreement with
several of us to discontinue this bash bash yell and scream childish
behaviour. oh well
anyway as Bill (William) Mee told me to adress his letter and how it
wound up
on the net in a modified fashion I have done so and will retreat to
only
definning IANTD stances you be the judge of it's pros and cons and
decide for
yourself.
again tech po2's redline at 1.5 ata. operational diving is 1.4 ata.
the 170 in tech eanx is not an ean x dive it uses eanx mixtures for
deco and
is used in tracking of cns % accumulation etc.
Safediving to all of you,
Tom Mount
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