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Bernie, first, let's get this off on the right foot:
lick my ball bag.
Secondly, I am sick and tired of listening to the
strokery out of you wreck divers. Trry getting in
shape so you can dive reasonable tanks. Try
using a dry wuit with the big tanks, if there is
some reson to stay down that long. Try using
the right stage bottles, instead of the bullshit
you must be using. Then you won;t have to jack
wings. Tat hoseshit about the drag sounds like
Mount's crap. I think the last time I saw Griffiths
he was taking dive lessons. If I want his opinion,
it won;t be on diving. Any stroke who can breath
and walk to the side of the boat can dive the
"Doria", I think you guys have proven that. I don't
know what the fuck you are talking about with your
bags being over you head.
Tellme this Bernie, speaking of dumb fucks,
are you still getting shitfaced and calling the seaplane
when you get sea urchin spines in your hands. Maybe
that has something to do witht he big tanks and the
cute little bondage wings. Try a dominatrix mask with
those wings, Bernie.
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From: Bernie Chowdhury
Subject: reply to george, re: wings
Date: 09/13
Time: 05:27 PM
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 15:42:16 -0400
From: Bernie Chowdhury [bernie@in*.ne*]
Subject: reply to george, re: wings
George wrote:
> Gregg, I am replying to you and the list on the
> choice of wings. Yes, you did answer your own
> question - if you use aluminum 80's , you don't
> need to use two sets of wings. The other problem,
> using "decorated" wings is answered in a similar way -
> if you use the aluminm 80's you don't need to jack
> the wings. If you watch your buddy's wings, you will
> see that they all tend to conform around the tank
> and do not stick out. The manufacturers putting
> cute little string arrangements on them is to
> satisfy their own "belief" that the wings stick out
> straight, like on an airplane. This brings out my
> favorite recommendation, and that is that people
> who design this stuff should try diving with it
> sometime.
George,
If one is diving tanks larger than alu 80's it's a good idea to have
both
extra buoyancy in a BC (eg, large capacity bag) and also have the BC
kept to
as low-drag a profile as possible. Also, if one is carrying stage
bottles
(particularly steel), the extra buoyancy of a larger bag may be
critical. I
doubt that manufacturers believe that their "...wings stick out
straight,
like on an airplane." Rather, I think the "..cute little strings...
on them
[BC's]..." is a way to prevent drag and also the cutting of the BC in
tight
areas. Personally, various equipment of mine has gotten sliced
inside
wrecks. This has come about because the gear has presented too much
of a
profile. BC's are high on this list. The buoyancy requirements of
my rig
(double steel tanks, ranging from 95's to 15 litre, with double
stage
bottles, ranging from alu 80's to steel 12 litre, argon inflation
bottle,
and 30 cu ft oxygen bottle, DUI BC, no weight belt or max 8 pound
belt -
exact configuration depending on the type of dive and depth, etc.) at
depths
from 120 to 300 + feet means that my bag will
be up and over my tanks, if not kept down with "...cute little
strings...."
As far as your "...favorite recommendation...that...people who design
this
stuff should try diving with it sometime" I will add the following:
I
believe John Griffith (owner of OMS) first put out the dual bladder
BC with
"...cute little strings...." I dove with John on several dives,
including
three on the "Andrea Doria" in 1991 where we picked up over 100
artifacts
from the second class china closet in 200 + feet. After our dives,
we
discussed high gear profiles, the possibility of getting our BC's cut,
and
the experiences of a fellow diver, who had a hose cut inside another
wreck.
Low profile was definitely desirable. John sells gear that works,
based on
his own and others' experiences, in addition to feedback from divers.
John
dives the gear he sells. Based on my knowledge of Dive-Rite and the
people
running it, they also dive the gear they sell.
And, by-the-way, on a recent 300 foot + wreck dive in Europe, I was
politely
asked by my hosts to use the dual bladder BC with the "...cute
little
strings...." And you know what? I was greatfull for the low drag!
Don't knock stuff 'till you've tried it in different environments.
Every
piece of gear has its place.
Bernie Chowdhury
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