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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 19:57:57 EDT
From: UXMA73A@pr*.co* ( GEORGE M IRVINE III)
To: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Gavin's Suppressed Chapter

     Phil, Bill wrote that sooo long ago that cpmputers 
have changed. I am sure he trusted those he gave it
to to see it through. That person was Parker Turner.
He died in 1991. He was involved with the NACD
quite heavily, and gave it to them as a chapter of the
manual. As I said, Mount was training director, and was
Adamantly opposed to this chapter, as it is the antithesis
off what he teaches.  - George



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From:	 Phil Pfeiffer
Subject:	 Re: Tech training (IANTD/etc)
Date:	 09/11
Time:	 04:56 PM

Date:        Mon, 11 Sep 1995 17:00:05 -0400 (EDT)
From:        Phil Pfeiffer  [phil@es*.ed*]
In-Reply-To: <950911.141530.EDT.JEFF@UT*.UT*.ED*>
Subject:     Re: Tech training (IANTD/etc)

> > Jeff, send that to the list. They need to get this
> >in perspective before the body count goes any
> >higher. - George
> 
> On the IANTD/Mount/WKPP/etc thread...
> 
> I am VERY pleased that you are being vocal about this, god knows 
somebody
> with some clout needs to.  Your methodology obviously works....

Amen to this posting, and the response.  I really do not know enough 

about the debate to make any sort of an informed comment on the 
actions 
taken by any of the principles.  But I do respect George's postings 
on 
this topic, and any help that he could give to those of us who might 

want to study this craft more closely would be deeply appreciated.

That last sentence is meant as a respectful request: one that I hope, 

but do not necessarily expect, to see fulfilled.  I know, from 
experience, 
that organizing information about any sort of skill into a format 
that 
would permit distribution over a network would take time.  I teach 
for a 
living, and it often takes me much longer to write coherent prose 
than 
I'd prefer.  I would also guess that the WKPP is a real time-sink:  
one 
that leaves participants exhausted at the end of a typical day.

At the very least, George's postings have reminded me about the need 
to 
be cautious when selecting one's teachers--regardless of their 
supposed 
credentials.

One other stupid question.  The discussion on (Gavin's?) suppressed 
chapter on equipment configurations implied--as I recall--that Mount 

(and the NACD?)was sitting on the *only* existing copy of that 
manuscript.  How could anyone who writes *anything* that amounts to a 

thirty-page manuscript in this day and age *not* make a backup copy 
of 
that MS--especially a person who depends on redundancy to carry him 
through other major activities?

-- Phil

=====
 Phil Pfeiffer, Computer Sci. Dept.  |  Kindness in thought leads to 
wisdom.
 East Stroudsburg University,        |  Kindness in speech leads to 
eloquence.
 East Stroudsburg, Pa.  18301-2999   |  Kindness in action leads to 
love.
 phil@es*.ed*    (717) 424-3820      |                            -- 
Lao-Tsu


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