well time for me to leave also.....after being on this list for several months...I can only remember a few messages that were worth reading like many others before who left,I was interested in learning new techniques,new equipment, and so forth,only that didn't happen to much, instead I spent most of my time wading through and endless dribble of attacks with very little information on tech-diving.at least 10 other people I know have left for the same reason,what a pity it is that this list is has a few that spoil it for the rest of us who were looking for up to date information,I think I'll stick to the archives if i want something at least I can eliminate the flames and get the info I want.I fear that this list is not going to be around much longer if these people are allowed to send there senseless and insulting comments continuously,other people such a s myself will get tired of having to deal with it.so to all the people who gave some good advice...thanks for your help...maybe in a couple of months I'll try it again,by then I hope the flames will have stopped,or maybe the offending parties will have moved on to impress others who have less knowledge than themselves . and to the offensive party, don't pat yourself on the back to hard, touting what a great diver you are,considering no one up in the northeast knows who you are.. happy diving to all.... Ron.
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