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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 1995 15:18:09 -0500 (EST)
From: samuel frushour <frushour@in*.ed*>
To: Dan Volker <dlv@ga*.ne*>
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: tech talk opportunism
Dan it sounds like you wish to sell tech diving to an ever increasing 
audiance and reap the dollars as the south Fla. dive guru.  I am sure 
that Vail used to be a great place for hard core skiers but now it is 
diluted with candy-ass yuppies.  Is that the future of teck diving (you 
could just sell "in touch with ones self" tech to hordes of unappreciative 
yahoos)?  

Sam Frushour (Tech diving is more than a big wallet and a big ego.)

On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Dan Volker wrote:

> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 14:04:56 -0400
> From: Dan Volker <dlv@ga*.ne*>
> To: techdiver@terra.net
> Subject: Do you want "tech talk" or "tech diving"?
> 
> I'm seeing an awful lot of tech talk on this group, but very little actual 
> talk about diving. Its almost like a bunch of guys who like to get together 
> and talk about girls, but few of them ever actually "do things" with girls. 
>  Personally , I got into tech diving to see big fish, big sharks, and an 
> ecosystem not yet shut down by commercial overfishing.  I wanted shipwrecks 
> that looked more like my childhood fantasies than like a stripped rowboat on 
> a sixty foot reef.  And I wanted deep reefs covered with big marine life 
> that had never seen divers before. 
> 
> One of the things that excited me  about this tech diver  list serve, was 
> that with it, there could be enough of us to begin a more commercially 
> viable reason for good dive operators  and manufacturers to cater to 
> technical divers. I was hoping to hear  more about tech dives people were 
> planning, and to see more opportunities to explore deep virgin sites.
> While South Florida has what could easily be considered to be among the 
> world's finest deep wreck and reef dives,  it doesn't have enough of us to 
> drive a technical diving Mecca into existence. Its alot like 20 or 30 people 
> sitting around a big mountain in Colorado called Vail (lets say the year was 
> 1940) talking about how cool the skiing is, and wondering about how great it 
> could be if we could get the public interested. "Then we wouldn't have to 
> walk up the hill, maybe we'd be able to pool our money and make a "rope tow" 
> to pull us up to the top. Maybe we could even get somebody to start making 
> skis for us better than these wooden boards we are strapping to our feet now.
"
> 
> I think all of us want more exciting dives. I think all of us would like 
> more boats to cater to us. Most of us would like better equipment and more 
> access to the best stuff. If we could turn South Florida into a "Vail", we 
> could cause the evolution of technical diving to  accelerate, and each of us 
> would be alot closer to getting what we want out of diving than we can now.
> If any of you are unfamiliar with how much better the technical diving is 
> here in South Florida than in other places, I can easily mpeg compress some 
> of our video footage and place it in my ftp site for you to down load. this 
> would cost you nothing, and once you see it, you will never again dive the 
> Keys or that little hole in the ground Hal Watts charges people for. And if 
> I was'nt sure I could prove what I'm saying to be true, I would'nt say it.
> 
> What I'm proposing is to set up a series of tech dives  here in South 
> Florida. "Out of towners" could either be offered a weekend stay by a local, 
> or could book into one of the hotels that caters to divers already with $40 
> per night deals. We could get local boats here to set up special trips for 
> these groups, out to the best  sites, and to provide this service at the 
> normal dive rate of around $50 for as many tanks as you can do in 4 or five 
> hours. Oxygen and Helium would be available. All this would be very easy.  
> 
> So we can either continue to have discussions about climbing up ladders, O2 
> sensors, and fools, or we can use this list serve to facilitate better 
> diving experiences for all of us, at reasonable rates. If  enough members of 
> this list have an interest, I can have local operators set this up, and even 
> have Dive USA add in demos of high tech gear like the Odyssey Rebreather, 
> full face masks, nitrox computers and alot more.
> Dan Volker
> 407-683-3592
> 
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