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>Dan- > >While I appreciate your desire for more "diving" on the techdiver >list, I think the theoretical discussions have their place as well >(more on this below). > >But on to the real meat of your message, the availability of good >"technical" diving at reasonable rates. I really don't know much >about south Florida diving, but I do know that much of what you >described already exists here in the NY/NJ area. There are several >boats which cater to technical divers and do more deepwater wreck >trips than anything else (if you have access to a web browser, >I've got a schedule for one of these boats on my web site. Check >out: http://www.panix.com/~tab/njorgs/seeker.html). Tracey, this is a nice web page. It does a great job of helping people find what they want in NY or NJ, but it does not address the issue of finding the best technical dive experience you can have. Or the best recreational one. Yes, these trips >are expensive, but they're also usually two to three days & 60 miles or >more offshore. There are plenty of interesting wrecks even closer (& >cheaper) too... plenty of stuff yet to find, explore, and identify in >less than a hundred feet of water. > Tracy, There is NO way to compare NY or NJ tech diving with South Florida tech diving. A typical example here would be a fifteen minute boat ride out to the the RB Johnson: 220ft to the top, 280 to the bottom (its actually to big freighters, one on top of the other) vis is frequently in the 150 to 200 foot range. You can't see down 150 feet because the wrecks are on the other side of an amberjack wall that is generally over 40 feet thick. Once you have penetrated this cloud of jacks, you can see the entire structure of the ships below you. Big grouper and swarms of fish are all over. And if you want to see the vast superiority of South Florida diving over NY/NJ diving on a decent web browser , try http://www.florida.net/scuba/dive >>We could get local boats here to set up special trips for >>these groups, out to the best sites, and to provide this service at the >>normal dive rate of around $50 for as many tanks as you can do in 4 or five >>hours. Oxygen and Helium would be available. All this would be very easy. > >This part sounds really strange, no matter where you're diving... "as many >tanks as you can do in 4 or five hours"??? Come on, a single "technical" >level dive would take nearly that long, and you'd certaily need more than >an hour of sit time before jumping in for another one. Here in NJ, a >normal "recreational" wreck diving trip runs $50 - $75 for two or three >tanks (avg. about 6 hours, including travel time). Using the RB Johnson example, we would do 25 minutes on the wreck, decompress in under 2hours (pure O2 on 20 and 10 foot stops with air breaks)or if you are George on mix, maybe 55 minutes with counter diffusion on nitrox at intermediate depth, and pure O2 at 30, 20, and 10 foot stops. This would leave an hour interval and plenty of time to dive a second time on a recreational 60 foot reef. And this would easily fit into a four or five hour trip. This would run about $50. Travel time is a non-factor here. >>So we can either continue to have discussions about climbing up ladders, O2 >>sensors, and fools, or we can use this list serve to facilitate better >>diving experiences for all of us, at reasonable rates. > > > >--tab > >-- >Tracey [Baker] Wagner tab@pa*.co* > *** NJ SCUBA Diving Info at http://www.panix.com/~tab/scuba.html *** >"Far beneath the sea, the past and the present come together as one, and we > have been allowed to touch them both." -- Brad Sheard, _Beyond Sportdiving_ > > Dan Volker 407-683-3592
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