Harold, when you said you believe in "open discussion" of accidents, I guess you meant that I should have sent my message to the list instead of to you personnally. I see your point now, but there is not much to discuss, now is there? But I still have to ask, who is teaching this stuff? It just makes no sense. Why can't we do it right? Bill Gleason's starting to sound better to me every day. - George
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