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Mike, why would I answer your one direct question, when in fact you have
already stated that any answer I give, you will call a lie if it far
exceeded your very low guess. So I can easily set back and fill content in
the fact that I know you're full of shit and my dives do exceed yours.
Some have already emailed me wanting to correct your bullshit, but they do
not need to lower themselves to address you or your fruitless accusations.
I/we know better and I have asked them to not post, I can handle morons
like you.
You have tried to cover such a wide area in your post to get at me and it
is you who is on the hot set. Even trying to pull me into a troll about
future dives I may or may not do.
The MZ and you thing, I have never even talked to him over and just ask
Cobb in private my whole feeling on that, as we talked it over the phone as
it went down. The whole shit with him showed up on FLtech and the only
involvement I had was a post asking both of you if I could fwd it to
techdiver, I got no answer from either of you. But it was funny as hell
watching it.
Now, to point out one last thing about you and your kind..........
At 06:09 PM 4/8/03 -0400, Mike R. wrote:
At the time we did those dives it was expressly stated by the captain
of the boat.
Once again you and your kind will always try and blame the Capt of the
vessel for everything that goes wrong or done wrong by you in the water. A
smart Capt will distance himself from you guys as you will surely see
another accident or do something wrong. And once again try and place the
blame on him.
Now if you go back and check my site you will see that the only guys I
expose have placed everyone else in a bad spot with their actions, the only
one I show with things like skin bends and pains is myself. I spare those
who do nothing wrong and yet suffer the effects of these dives. The photo
you are talking about of TOM breathing 02 after a dive on the Doria was
taken by Eric D and sent to everyone because he was wearing a GUE tee shirt
at the time and is so into it that he has GUE DIR on his lic. plate.
For those of you who do not know Eric is the guy that saved the diver on
Barnettes trip, he was trained by Rick Atkins and was a VBtech
guy.......thus the only reason that guy lived was because of him. Eric
CALLED me the very next day with all the details of the accident and is how
I knew Barnette was not telling the truth about what happened. I had warned
Eric before he moved down there that he would not like the way you guys
dived and to be careful.
Eric does like to stir the pot and is why he phoned me and emailed everyone
the photo of Tom.........if he is going to play the game, he must show his
name.
Pain, skin bends, bends, and other things that happen as no direct fault of
the diver or buddy I spare, which is why you do not always see me tell it,
I do how ever let it be known that it happens to me so the newbies do not
go into the hobby blind or mislead. I am not thinned skinned......
have a nice day
At 10:57 PM 4/8/03 +0000, Michael Barnette wrote:
>Hi JT-
>
>Since we have beaten this horse to death, it is only fair we do a post
>mortem to see how we got to where we are today. I will try to keep this
>simple, but please ask Nancy or another designated translator to help you
>with any big words.
>
>The reason I initially posted was due to your incessant abuse of other
>subscribers. Instead of answering questions, you simply called them
>neophytes and deemed them unworthy of your time. However, your "holier
>than thou art" attitude caught up with you. After several requests from
>posters to learn about your background, you made the following statement
>in a post:
>
>"Joe, I have been diving longer in time, years and deeper in depth than
>the leader of your group. He did not even know how to fill my doubles when
>I stopped by DQ when it first opened.....HE was just learning so ask him
>the year."
>
>Obviously, *you* concern yourself with status (especially depth) and
>comparison to others. I decided to test you on this, and simply requested
>the number of technical dives you have done below 150fsw to see how
>credible the above statement was, and to get an "apples versus apples"
>comparison. I posted an overview of my diving history; you have
>not. Again, you refuse to answer that simple question time and time
>again. Instead, you have tried to dredge up whatever you can to try and
>distract the list from the truth about your technical diving
>background. Remember, you are the one calling people neophytes, not
>me. You are the one stating something along the lines that if you have
>not dived below 500fsw or been back 12,000 feet in a cave (even though you
>have never been in a cave, and refuse to take the very beneficial
>training) that they had no business talking to you or commenting on your
>activities, not me. That is pretty bold coming from a guy that has such a
>limited technical diving history such as you.
>
>I also contested your claims about me not knowing to fill doubles. Where
>were you planning on going with that? You continually try to place
>yourself head and shoulders above everyone else, but obviously, the truth
>about your *real* technical diving background, or lack thereof, has been
>revealed. I am just surprised no one else called you on that bullshit,
>since it was all right there on your website and in your posts.
>
>We have discussed an incident that occurred 2.5 years ago, as well as my
>employment history over 6 years ago, both of which have little bearing on
>the initial topic. Now you bring up some other red herrings with Zurl,
>which is again wildly convoluted (yet, I see you have allied yourself with
>someone that has as much credibility as you). You continue to try and
>distract me from the true objective and scope of my original post. No
>longer will I entertain your segues. Through it all, never have I seen
>you, or any of your comrades, simply offer the number of technical dives
>you have done past 150fsw.
>
>I went ahead and attempted to tally up your dives, based on your website
>and your trip reports. I ended up with 43 technical dives past 150fsw
>over the period of the last six years (1998-2003), but conceded that I may
>be off a bit. I offered for you to correct me on my estimate of 43
>technical dives past 150fsw, but you passed. It is obvious to anyone that
>reviews your website that the vast majority - if not all - of your
>technical dives below 150fsw are documented. I am aware of the limited
>dive season, as well as the schedule of the dive boats in the area. It
>would be preposterous for you to attempt and inflate your diving history
>of 43 dives, as we would all know you are lying; hence your silence on
>this subject. Perhaps if you ignore it long enough and it will go away,
>right? While the actual number of dives is unimportant, the scale on the
>number of your dives *is* important. Regardless if it is 43, 53, or 63,
>it is clear and undeniable that you, my friend, are a neophyte (i.e., a
>beginner; a novice). It is also clear that you have a fascination with
>depth (based on your lack of intermediate technical diving experience and
>your rush to go so deep, so fast), as well as an irrational and unhealthy
>competitive attitude with other divers. Hopefully, this won't get you, or
>someone else, killed.
>
>You continue to pick apart my posts and only address very limited sections
>with empty, unsubstantiated statements. The only reason I brought up the
>DCS incidents was not to criticize anyone about getting bent (as you tried
>to insinuate), but the fact that you have covered up numerous incidents,
>something you swear you don't do ("I always tell the truth"). This
>illustrates your lack of credibility.
>
>As you alluded to, DCS is one of diving's sports-related injuries. All
>things being equal, you wouldn't criticize a football player for blowing
>out his knee or a tennis player for pulling a hamstring, and you shouldn't
>criticize a DCS event either. That only further stigmatizes the problem,
>and may hinder people from seeking proper treatment.
>
>Cover-ups and exposing people is not on my agenda, though I know it is on
>yours. I simply wanted to illustrate that you are a hypocrite and you
>have no credibility. Unlike you, I won't demand the names of the divers
>who got bent on the third DORIA trip in 2001 (apparently the majority of
>them), or threaten to post the picture of one of them who was bent,
>sucking O2 on the sundeck of the MISS LINDSEY, and flipping off the
>cameraman, which was circulated on the internet right after the completion
>of your trip. Just knowing that it *does* exist, what I said *did*
>happen, and that *you* know this is true (as much as you want to deny it)
>is all the proof and credibility I need. Even though I heard from
>separate sources that you also were bent during the 2001 DORIA dives, I
>will just drop that, since you will stubbornly continue to deny it to the
>end ("Coalition troops are NOT in Baghdad!"). As far as I am concerned,
>my point has been made: you are a hypocrite.
>
>Now, I will ignore whatever you and your buddies want to throw at me and
>will just focus on that one simple question:
>
>JT, just how many technical (i.e., helium-based with planned
>decompression) dives have you conducted below 150fsw?
>
>If this is answered accurately, I will disappear. I will let you reign
>free on TECHDIVER, unfettered from exposing people and boasting about how
>you have gone deeper than anyone else. Free to criticize me, my
>ancestors, or whatever trivial, non-related subject you can find so as to
>"bash my dick", make you look better, and take the focus off of your own
>inadequacies.
>
>The funny thing is, the damage is already done. People have checked out
>your website and (quickly) counted up the number of technical dives you
>have actually done. They now understand what perspective to put on
>anything that you have to say, since they know your true diving background.
>
>Have a pleasant evening,
>Mike
>
>Michael C. Barnette
>"I RESPECT JT'S EXTENSIVE TECHNICAL DIVING HISTORY: 43 DIVES!"
>
>
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