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--=====================_10249998==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Your post go no where.........dead is dead and divers who get involved with technical diving should accept the risk.......families should be involved and informed by the diver before he takes risk not after he dies. >that Nic was a *pioneer* (but NOT testing a prototype) pioneer = one that originates or helps open up a new line of thought or activity In order to be a pioneer you must accept risk because it is NEW New "key words"....unfamiliar, not accustom At 08:08 PM 3/21/03 +1100, Christian Gerzner wrote: >On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:19:11 -0500, Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> wrote: > >I wrote: > > > >And, apropos the current discussion, your point is? You appear to be > > >implying that Nic Gotto couldn't dive to begin with, hoped it would > > >make him something he was not, was a moron and an accident waiting to > > >happen? Really? > > > I have never met Nic or even talked to him and was not referring to him > > directly , > >No doubt, yet you come across as all-knowing, charging across the >landscape on your trusty steed. Wouldn't it then have been a rather >good idea to change the subject line? After all, it still refers to >Nic Gotto? > >Couldn't Michelle Gotto have drawn the very same conclusions as I did >- as to your inferences? Since you had already firmly implanted both >feet into mouth where Michelle is concerned, don't you think that >might have been a good idea? > >JT, your insensitivity, your braggadocio, your lack of compassion is >quite simply breathtaking. I think you need to take stock of yourself >before it's too late, but then that might well be the case already. >Sorry, that's a cheap shot but I really can't help myself on this occasion. > >I suggest, as a start, that you re-read before sending something and >at least, at the very least, ask yourself whether what you have >written will be interpreted in the way you intend it to be. Mind, I >really don't know whether that'll do any good but it's a start. > > > but since he is doing a permanent 6ft deco stop I will never get > > to know him, ask him, or anything. If I could ask him, I think I would ask > > "was it worth it"...... > >It still doesn't seem to have dawned on you, in spite of all that has >been written, that Nic was a *pioneer* (but NOT testing a prototype) >on this thing, that its reputation as a seriously questionable piece >of kit HAD NOT YET BEEN ESTABLISHED (upper case to get your >attention). Hello? Are you reading the same posts that I am? > >Tell me, do you read and seek to understand the posts of others before >putting either or both feet back into mouth? From this viewing angle >it sure doesn't look like it. > >Now, would you care to answer my response to you as follows: > > > > > On trips I organize there are only a select few I let on with > > > > a RB and then I have certain rules they must agree to and > > > > they were getting it done on OC before they got a RB. > > > > So first of all you challenge anyone to prove ... oh ... I get it, > > > the RB divers are NEVER your buddies? But subject to *your* > > > rules that a select few must agree to, that's OK, these select > > > few can then dive with you? > > > > > > What apparently gives you the right to be the final arbiter of > > > whether a RB diver can, or cannot, dive with your group? Oh, > > > you're an expert on RBs? But you don't dive them. Or is your > > > criterion the fact that they were getting it done on OC before > > > they got a RB? If so, that's quite a call. > >Christian >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the water" Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ Email captjt@mi*.co* --=====================_10249998==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <html> Your post go no where.........dead is dead and divers who get involved with technical diving should accept the risk.......families should be involved and informed by the diver before he takes risk not after he dies. >that Nic was a *pioneer* (but NOT testing a prototype) <b>pioneer = one that originates or helps open up a new line of thought or activity <br> </b>In order to be a pioneer you must accept risk because it is <b>NEW <br> New </b> "key words"<b>....</b>unfamiliar, not accustom<br> <br> <br> <b> <br> </b> At 08:08 PM 3/21/03 +1100, Christian Gerzner wrote:<br> <blockquote type=cite cite>On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 17:19:11 -0500, Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> wrote:<br> <br> I wrote:<br> <br> > >And, apropos the current discussion, your point is? You appear to be<br> > >implying that Nic Gotto couldn't dive to begin with, hoped it would<br> > >make him something he was not, was a moron and an accident waiting to<br> > >happen? Really?<br> <br> > I have never met Nic or even talked to him and was not referring to him<br> > directly ,<br> <br> No doubt, yet you come across as all-knowing, charging across the<br> landscape on your trusty steed. Wouldn't it then have been a rather<br> good idea to change the subject line? After all, it still refers to<br> Nic Gotto?<br> <br> Couldn't Michelle Gotto have drawn the very same conclusions as I did<br> - as to your inferences? Since you had already firmly implanted both<br> feet into mouth where Michelle is concerned, don't you think that<br> might have been a good idea?<br> <br> JT, your insensitivity, your braggadocio, your lack of compassion is<br> quite simply breathtaking. I think you need to take stock of yourself<br> before it's too late, but then that might well be the case already.<br> Sorry, that's a cheap shot but I really can't help myself on this occasion.<br> <br> I suggest, as a start, that you re-read before sending something and<br> at least, at the very least, ask yourself whether what you have<br> written will be interpreted in the way you intend it to be. Mind, I<br> really don't know whether that'll do any good but it's a start.<br> <br> > but since he is doing a permanent 6ft deco stop I will never get<br> > to know him, ask him, or anything. If I could ask him, I think I would ask<br> > "was it worth it"......<br> <br> It still doesn't seem to have dawned on you, in spite of all that has<br> been written, that Nic was a *pioneer* (but NOT testing a prototype)<br> on this thing, that its reputation as a seriously questionable piece<br> of kit HAD NOT YET BEEN ESTABLISHED (upper case to get your<br> attention). Hello? Are you reading the same posts that I am?<br> <br> Tell me, do you read and seek to understand the posts of others before<br> putting either or both feet back into mouth? From this viewing angle<br> it sure doesn't look like it.<br> <br> Now, would you care to answer my response to you as follows:<br> <br> > > > On trips I organize there are only a select few I let on with<br> > > > a RB and then I have certain rules they must agree to and<br> > > > they were getting it done on OC before they got a RB.<br> <br> > > So first of all you challenge anyone to prove ... oh ... I get it,<br> > > the RB divers are NEVER your buddies? But subject to *your*<br> > > rules that a select few must agree to, that's OK, these select<br> > > few can then dive with you?<br> > > <br> > > What apparently gives you the right to be the final arbiter of<br> > > whether a RB diver can, or cannot, dive with your group? Oh,<br> > > you're an expert on RBs? But you don't dive them. Or is your<br> > > criterion the fact that they were getting it done on OC before <br> > > they got a RB? If so, that's quite a call.<br> <br> Christian<br> --<br> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.<br> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. </blockquote><br> <br> "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the water"<br> <font color="#0000FF"><u>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more <br> Web Site <a href="http://www.capt-jt.com/" eudora="autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com</a><a href="http://www.capt-jt.com/" eudora="autourl">/<br> </a>Email captjt@mi*.co*<br> <br> </font></u></html> --=====================_10249998==_.ALT-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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