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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>, "IB2" <ian@ib*.in*>,
    
Subject: RE: scooters
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:36:53 -0500
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JT, you are a disgrace to diving. Your attitude is the worst I have ever
seen, and the fact is your skills are non existent - seen them with my own
eyes, and your ignorance is boundless. You have no business dispensing
advice to anyone, and only the hangers-oners that you attract will listen to
you, which is really pathetic.

What is this about "don't talk to me unless you've been to 450 feet or
12,000 into a cave"? Who do you think you are kidding?

This post is not about diving, it is about you running your mouth trying to
get recognition. Well you are succeeding - you are quite well recognized as
power of bad example in diving. Calling you an "idiot" is not an "opinion",
it s a conclusion that anyone arrives at who reads all the  "facts" that you
have provided on here.

Why don't you step back and take a hard look at your behavior, and ask
somebody you trust, like maybe even yourself, if your behavior and example
is really a good idea or not.


----Original Message-----
From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:15 AM
To: IB2; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: scooters


  Ian
  I do not know what Black said a lot of times, he was a disturbed person
with many more problems than just with his diving.
  But I do know that I once posted unless you have done a dive deeper than
450ft or beyond 12,000 ft in a cave do not answer me. This was done just to
remove all the neophytes that like to engage those who actually do the dives
in a debate they have no experience in.
  I have already established any credibility needed to surpass others who
like to wave their dick around.
  I have not had to lie, cover up, or delete any details of dives I have
done or been on to protect my ego or to promote sales. Just facts..........
I do not have to exaggerate depths, times, seas, or anything else to create
the illusion I am the better. I only deal with the facts, not opinions. If
you were actually following this thread, I was merely correcting a post made
on quest as to me being an idiot. While at the same time the person calling
me an idiot admits I am the only one taking his scooters to 400ft during his
sales pitch. Taking the scooters to 400ft is a fact...........being a idiot
is an opinion. Then all the neophytes jump in to post...........
  The best way to silence me is to not answer me, then you will only see the
occasional post that I have updated my web site or some other piece of
information that many like to be informed of.

    FWIW  since last Friday I have had 6,000 hits to my site, I also found
out that the home page counter has been incorrect from the beginning and
displaying a far lower number than it actually is. I added the counter and
had to upgrade my site back in 1999 after I got over 20,000 hits in 2 days
and it crashed, it was of the Halloween photos I put up of the us in WKPP
costumes and a make believe fight with a super wreckdiver. I guess everyone
kept going back to look at it because it was very funny.

  And you Mr. Ian........ have an extremely nice day


         At 07:09 AM 2/13/03 +0000, IB2 wrote:

    JT,

    The last person I saw post a "don't talk to me unless you've done ZZZZ
dives" message was Black the (Ex)Quack.

    If you want to establish your credibility, copying his strategy may not
be the best way to do so. If you don't give a monkeys toss what others think
of you why not just maintain a dignified silence?

    Stay safe,


    Ian.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Capt JT
        To: Dean Laffan ; techdiver@aquanaut.com
        Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:19 PM
        Subject: Re: scooters


        It only seems to be shared by those who have never done a dive that
is of an extreme or of a challenging kind. Often by novice divers or those
who have come accustom to kissing a certain ones ass. But in all fairness I
do not know you and you really don't know me or you would not say things
like you do. Everything I have done in diving is well documented and can
easily be proven, even to the point of watching TV here the last 2 days and
will show again tonight.
        So to clear up any misunderstanding by me and those who are reading
this please place your diving achievements, leveling of training,
experience, and any other source other than email to prove your personal
qualifications when you answer to this email. Then at least everyone will
not think you are guilty of being both a neophyte and a KA. If you are
unable or unwilling to comply with the request above do not waste my time or
those on this list.


        Have a nice day


                At 12:17 PM 2/12/03 +1100, Dean Laffan wrote:
          on 11/2/03 2:16 PM, Capt JT at captjt@mi*.co* wrote:


          > His statement about  me being an idiot is only an opinion,


          But a very common one.








          Regards




          dean  laffan


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you are a disgrace to diving. Your attitude is the worst I have ever =
seen, and=20
the fact is your skills are non existent - seen them with my own eyes, =
and your=20
ignorance is boundless. You have no business dispensing advice to =
anyone, and=20
only the hangers-oners that you attract will listen to you, =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D911352600-14022003><FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>What=20
is this about "don't talk to me unless you've been to 450 feet or 12,000 =
into a=20
cave"? Who do you think you are kidding?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D911352600-14022003><FONT face=3DArial
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D911352600-14022003><FONT face=3DArial
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post is not about diving, it is about you running your mouth trying =
to get=20
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power of=20
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it s a=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D911352600-14022003><FONT face=3DArial
color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Why=20
don't you step back and take a hard look at your behavior, and ask =
somebody you=20
trust, like maybe even yourself, if your behavior and example is really =
a good=20
idea or not. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D911352600-14022003><FONT face=3DArial
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Capt JT=20
[mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 13, =
2003 10:15=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> IB2;
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
scooters<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Ian<BR>I do not know =
what Black=20
  said a lot of times, he was a disturbed person with many more problems =
than=20
  just with his diving. <BR>But I do know that I once posted unless you =
have=20
  done a dive deeper than 450ft or beyond 12,000 ft in a cave do not =
answer me.=20
  This was done just to remove all the neophytes that like to engage =
those who=20
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have=20
  already established any credibility needed to surpass others who like =
to wave=20
  their dick around.<BR>I have not had to lie, cover up, or delete any =
details=20
  of dives I have done or been on to protect my ego or to promote sales. =
Just=20
  facts.......... I do not have to exaggerate depths, times, seas, or =
anything=20
  else to create the illusion I am the better. I only deal with the =
facts, not=20
  opinions. If you were actually following this thread, I was merely =
correcting=20
  a post made on quest as to me being an idiot. While at the same time =
the=20
  person calling me an idiot admits I am the only one taking his =
scooters to=20
  400ft during his sales pitch. Taking the scooters to 400ft is a=20
  fact...........being a idiot is an opinion. Then all the neophytes =
jump in to=20
  post........... <BR>The best way to <FONT size=3D2>silence me is to =
not answer=20
  me, then you will only see the occasional post that I have updated my =
web site=20
  or some other piece of information that many like to be informed=20
  of.<BR><BR>  FWIW  since last Friday I have had 6,000 hits =
to my=20
  site, I also found out that the home page counter has been incorrect =
from the=20
  beginning and displaying a far lower number than it actually is. I =
added the=20
  counter and had to upgrade my site back in 1999 after I got over =
20,000 hits=20
  in 2 days and it crashed, it was of the Halloween photos I put up of =
the us in=20
  WKPP costumes and a make believe fight with a super wreckdiver. I =
guess=20
  everyone kept going back to look at it because it was very =
funny.  =20
  </FONT><BR><BR>And you Mr. Ian........ have an extremely nice=20
  day<BR><BR><BR>       At 07:09 AM 2/13/03 =
+0000, IB2=20
  wrote:<BR><FONT size=3D2>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">JT,</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>The last=20
    person I saw post a "don't talk to me unless you've done ZZZZ dives" =
message=20
    was Black the (Ex)Quack.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT size=3D2>If
you =
want to=20
    establish your credibility, copying his strategy may not be the best =
way to=20
    do so. If you don't give a monkeys toss what others think of you why =
not=20
    just maintain a dignified silence?</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>Stay=20
    safe,</FONT><BR> <BR> <BR><FONT
size=3D2>Ian.</FONT>
    <BLOCKQUOTE>
      <DL>
        <DD>----- Original Message -----=20
        <DD>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">Capt =
JT</A>=20
        <DD>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:email@re*.co*.au*">Dean =
Laffan</A> ; <A=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>=20
        <DD>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:19 PM=20
        <DD>Subject:</B> Re: scooters<BR><BR>
        <DD>It only seems to be shared by those who have never done a =
dive that=20
        is of an extreme or of a challenging kind. Often by novice =
divers or=20
        those who have come accustom to kissing a certain ones ass. But =
in all=20
        fairness I do not know you and you really don't know me or you =
would not=20
        say things like you do. Everything I have done in diving is well =

        documented and can easily be proven, even to the point of =
watching TV=20
        here the last 2 days and will show again tonight.=20
        <DD>So to clear up any misunderstanding by me and those who are =
reading=20
        this please place your diving achievements, leveling of =
training,=20
        experience, and any other source other than email to prove your =
personal=20
        qualifications when you answer to this email</U>.</B> Then at =
least=20
        everyone will not think you are guilty of being both a neophyte =
and a=20
        KA. If you are unable or unwilling to comply with the request =
above do=20
        not waste my time or those on this list.<BR><BR>
        <DD>Have a nice day<BR><BR>
        <DD>        At 12:17 PM =
2/12/03=20
        +1100, Dean Laffan wrote:
        <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">
          <DD>on 11/2/03 2:16 PM, Capt JT at captjt@mi*.co*=20
wrote:<BR><BR>
          <DD>> His statement about  me being an idiot is only =
an=20
          opinion,<BR><BR>
          <DD>But a very common
one.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
          <DD>Regards<BR><BR><BR><BR>
          <DD>dean  laffan<BR><BR>
          <DD>r e a l   w o r l d   p r o d u c t i =
o n s=20
          <DD>6 7   l i t t l e   g e o r g e  =
s=20
          t,  f i t z r o y=20
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          <DD>home/office  +613-9419-3966=20
          <DD>Mobile       0418-525-315=20
          <DD>-- <BR><BR>
          <DD>In the valley of the blind, is the one eyed man not King ? =

          <DD>=20
          <DD>    - Anon<BR><BR>
          <DD>--=20
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        <DD>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you =
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        <DD>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & =
more=20
        <DD> Web Site  <A href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/"=20
        eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</A>=20
        <DD>Email     captjt@mi*.co*</FONT>=20
      </DD></DL></U></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>"You can't learn to
dive on the =
net,=20
    sooner or later you have to get in the water"<BR><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><U>Your=20
    Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more =
<BR> Web=20
    Site  <A href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/"=20
    eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com</A><A =
href=3D"http://www.capt-jt.com/"=20
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