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To: deepreef@bi*.bi*.Ha*.Or*
Subject: Re: breathing bag location
From: David Giddy <d.giddy@tr*.oz*.au*>
Cc: techdiver@opal.com
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:37:00 +1000
>From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.bi*.Ha*.Or*>
>
>> Using a front/back bag, it seems like the front bag would almost always
>> be empty, with all of the gas naturally migrating to the back when the
>> diver was horizontal.  If this were the case, the front/back issue seems
>> to disappear; either put it on the front (so gas *can't* go back) or put it
>> on the back (because it *will* go there if you let it).  I don't see the
>> point of the over the shoulder front/back configuration unless the diver
>> is vertical.  Perhaps this is the normal position for cave divers?
>> 
>> Any experiences that could clarify this?
>
>As far as I know, no rebreather design has both a front and back
>counterlung. The Cis-Lunar Mk-4 has two counterlungs, left and right, both
>up front.  I have found that changing my orientation in the water has
>almost no effect on the breathing resistance (I don't understand it
>either).  Breathing "back-pressure" (as I prefer to call the hydrostatic
>pressure component of rebreather breathing "resistance") depends more on
>the total volume of gas in the loop (i.e., how full the counterlungs are
>at a given lung volume). Learning to maintain optimal loop volume is
>a significant skill when training for rebreather diving.
>

Richard,

Having just done an intro course to the Prism, I know what you mean about
back pressure! I found at first, I was swimming around with cheeks puffed
out like a chipmunk! It seems the positioning of the breathing bag is fairly
critical in reducing this effect.

As we were only using it in a swimming pool, it was rather shallow. Do you
find this effect is independent of depth or less noticable down deeper ?
I found it significantly less comfortable to use than open circuit because of
this effect. How do you find the rebreather compared to open circuit now that
you have a significant number of hours on it ?

The Prism is an attractive proposition for technical diving in my opinion
as it is a versatile system with a relatively low cost.

Cheers,

David.
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