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From: "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
To: <Brwswe@ao*.co*>, <LangM@SI*.ED*>, <jan_neal@ya*.co*>,
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Cc: <Nauitec@ao*.co*>, <tom@es*.co*>, <mflahan@sc*.sd*.ed*>,
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Subject: RE: Deep Air
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 20:08:13 -0400
Bruce, I don't think there is anywhere that anyone asks to see a "deep air"
certification card and so far as I can see, only the worst of the farm
animals out there give it anything but scorn. Neither your decompression
tables nor anyone else's
work for air, as air does not work for diving, so having tables is nothing
more than accommodating other people's ignorance, and I strongly suspect
that those "other people" reside someplace on the NAUI BOD ( I am not
talking about NAUI Tec, I hope).

I know what Tim O' leary thinks, I talk to him all the time. What I am
asking in the context of this election is if we can identify any dinosaurs
still remaining on the BOD of NAUI and vote them out so you and O 'Leary and
the rest of the civilized world do not have to deal with this obvious
stupidity.

The best thing that ever happened to NAUI was getting rid of Brett
Gilliam, and the best thing that could happen to diving would be to isolate
this clown and Watts as the only vestigial remains of annelid stupidity in
the dive training business. Oh, yes, I forgot the real idiots - PADI - but
then what
do you expect from the bottom of the food chain? I can't remember the
boat monkey's name who runs that "tec" program, but then who cares.

Time to let the idiots be idiots. So far GUE is the only agency that is
clean in this regard. If we can identify who the holdouts are, and get rid
of them, then you guys will not have to make excuses for them any longer.


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Subject: Re: Deep Air



  George Irvine brought up a good question -- where does NAUI Tec stand on
  deep air.  Answer is simple -- NAUI Tec does NOT advocate deep air in
their
  tec training courses, nor for deep diving.  New NAUI air tables for tec
diving do
  not go beyond 150 fsw.  Trimix is the deep choice, with pure O2 switches
in
  shallow zone

    Tim O'Leary, when he gets back from Roatan, will surely comment more.

  Bruce Wienke
  5343L

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