Really getting desperate, aren't we? JT, you get on here and call people
"weenies", you get on here and play out your little vendettas, you get on
here and constantly say ridiculously stupid things about diving. You get on
here and say you have "1500" dives. Well, JT, after 1500 dives, why are we
still hearing about the weekly clusterfuck? And JT, dropping an anchor and
pulling down a line, pulling back up, and then bragging about it is not
diving. It is more of your bullshit. Living through a dive is great, but it
is not what we are all in it for.

On the scooter thing, the funny part is all of you resentful little weenies
hate me and you still all bought them. Now that you know how to use them, we
don't seem to be having any problems , now do we. Why don't you post a
regular report every time you run over your reel, or stick your hand in the
props, or can figure out which end goes forward. Why don't you just go ahead
and say you resent all of us down here severely, and skip the crap about
Halcyon, EE, and the rest?

You really are having a tough time with all this, aren't you JT? Now out
comes the personal bullshit. You are worried about my age. I would be
worried if I were you , too, since I am assuming you must be a lot younger
than I am , but you are a physical joke, and you look a lot older than I do.

Your constant mentioning of the scooters is pissing me off - I barely have
time to do anything but make them since you started this. I should offer the
Captain JT version, "even Captain JT can use this scooter". Maybe Halcyon
could start the "Captain JT" line of dive gear , "even a monkey can dive
with this". You guys are so funny - you watch us closely , try to copy what
we do, fuck it up, and then make asses out of yourselves discussing it. JT,
you should really post some clips from that video we got from the captain of
the boat where you staged your Florida Clusterfuck - that shit is priceless.

By the way, was this thread not about oxygen exposure ? Did you not start up
another round of bullshit? Did you not once again prove you are dumber than
a clam? 1500 dives? Weenie? Hello?


-----Original Message-----
From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 3:50 PM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: O2 exposure


As we can see from the old fart, all he posts is a lot of hot air. You
don't get it do you......I refuse to deal with a liar like you. Anything I
have to say about you or your scooters will be done on a post. I hide
nothing, you would very much like for it to be done in private as you do
not want the truth out.

You do not mind bashing Scubapro, Dive Rite, SS scooters, TDI, ect....
about their gear or training on a post and as long as it is true I have no
problem with it either. But you do not want anything bad posted about your
scooters, Halcyon, GUE. ect....... even the truth, because you fear it will
affect your sales.

You are worse than a used car salesman, tell'em anything for a sale. As I
told you before post anything from anyone you want, just be sure to include
their name, because I think you will just make stuff up and post it, that
is your nature.

Why don't you post Tom's emails, he Bcc me everyone he sent you. Had me
rolling as he proved you don't know WTF your talking about. George, when
you get up in the morning to shave off the gray stuff and you look in the
mirror, do you see an L on your forehead?

Go head and do your answer with all same bullshit, I have proved my point
with you and do not plan to answer you. One piece of advice, see if you can
get the "L" changed and  tattooed into an "E". That way everyone will think
it stands for "Ego" and not "Loser".

BTW, I liked the part about you coming up here to kick Tom's and my ass you
sent him, here's my address 10 Pennington Blvd. Portsmouth ,Va 23701  stop
on by ........

At 09:21 AM 9/10/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:
>I see we have the idiot out again. What's the matter, JT, nobody giving you
>any respect? Everyone laughing at you again?
>
>I told you and your stroke buddies that if you were not happy, I will give
>you your money back. You refused . You refused a trade for a Rodney
scooter.
>You continue to refuse to give me any feedback. You continue to pursue your
>petty little resentful vendettas on here, wasting everyone's time and
making
>an ass of yourself.
>
>If you want to play your "private email" game, ask your "buddies" for their
>private emails to me attempting to apologize for you, and their private
>emails saying that things are "getting better" up there, and that they are
>"trying to improve" things up there. And ask for the ones where I tell them
>they are wasting their time with you. Georgitsis tells me you are
absolutely
>hopeless, as do others who know you better. Get the private email where I
>get "pounded" by Jarrod for selling scooters to complete strokes. I have no
>defense for that. I had seen you in action and had no business selling you
>scooters - my mistake. At least I can say that I did not have the benefit
of
>Andrew's assessment prior to making this mistake. In fact, in my defense, I
>thought you guys were trying to learn. I was wrong.
>
>Your boy the student can't read, his panties are in a wad because I will
not
>help him with anything but the scooter, he is as ignorant as you are ( see
>his "private email" where he asks me " who is Pfizer" - beyond the pale)
and
>if he has problems with a species we found that is idiosyncratic to one
cave
>system, you illiterate moron, he can call the Smithsonian and complain.
>Let's see now, we have one cave that has a certain parasite in the gills of
>the crayfish that is only found in that one spot, we have a shrimp that is
>only found in one other cave, we have bacteria and such , fungi and other
>forms found that were previously unidentified, but the drug company Pfizer
>( tell your boy how big they are ) analyzed them for me and gave us a full
>written reports and had me collecting for them with their permits. Other
>companies have been involved as well, other museums, universities, etc. I
>hold licenses and permits to transport biologicals across international
>boundaries, as well as other "passports" you don't need to know about, and
>have been doing this longer than you have been diving or even driving a car
>for that matter, and make a real contribution to every aspect of this sport
>whereas you are a wannabe with an attitude.
>
>Me , my project and my people have been the subject of many articles in
>places like National Geographic, books like "Science in the Extreme", TV
>shows like Nat Geo, Discovery, Outdoor Adventure, Fox TV, NHK, and others,
>we work with several universities , government agencies and private
>companies, we hold permits with the Federal Government to basically do
>whatever we want due to our track record an skill at dealing in these
things
>, while you continue to be a loser who has staged more CFs than anyone on
>the East Coast and how is down to a small band of hangers-on and groupie
>ignoramuses who think you are the higher order since they can't even walk
>and chew gum, so you look pretty good to them.
>
>You have no idea what you are talking about, as usual. Petty little
>"captain" JT. You have nothing anyone wants, and neither does anyone in
your
>group. Keep playing Marguerite's monkey with the rest of your pretenders.
>You guys are a bad imitation of life, and a worse example of what happens
>when a desperate need to prove something collides with a dangerous sport.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:23 PM
>To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: Re:O2 exposure
>
>
>Randy,funny how you weenies can't take what you dish out, then you post for
>help hoping an old smokie like Joe and a known liar like G will help you
>out. That makes no difference to me. G can post all long detailed stuff
>that is not really needed, to impress you novice divers.
>
>The truth is I have over 1500 logged dives to depths(no students I don't
>teach, I only do real dives) and CNS clock numbers that would make most of
>you guys shit in your DS and bolt for the surface. I have never toxed and
>only felt what COULD have been the symptoms of an oxtox once.
>
>Also for WIW I along with a few others will be testing some decompression
>gases, no I did not come up with them, Tom Sawicki did, I don't dream up
>the stuff, I'm just the guy who will do it. Remember him George, he is the
>guy who is pounding you in private right now as he does not care to post to
>this list, it is too much of a waste of his time. He was not happy with
>your scooter and the fact that you lied on Quest about the "idiosyncratic"
>species and the 28 you found in Mexico. That is the area of his study and
>every creditable find of these things is reported to him and his co worker
>as they are the experts for them. Care to post his private emails to the
>list? Maybe this will ring a bell....
>
>And I love the "idiosyncratic" species. You might as well have said
>hooogalabooogala species, it would have meant as much. Actually, maybe you
>didn't lie, your just too ignorant to know what you found. It is just
>amazing how you have been able to bully people into pulling the wool over
>their own eyes about you.
>
>Randy you are not a wreck diver with any status or notable dives, but you
>are wrong. Many divers have toxed doing the 200ft weenie dives. Often the
>cause is the start of the dive, weenies will often use a travel mix when it
>is not needed because they have fear of a mix that is close to being
>hypoxic or use it in their plan to reduce deco time (so they say). Then
>they sometimes dive a hot mix like air because they think they are good on
>it. All these things start the CNS clock rolling and then they try to
>control it with deco mixes like 80/20. This is because they have a fear of
>02 exposure and do not know how to manage the clock when it goes past or
>gets close 100%.
>
>100% on your CNS clock does not mean anything if you take breaks to reduce
>the exposure . Which is how you really manage the clock.Oxygen poisoning is
>determined by interactions between the oxygen dose and the relative
>susceptibilities of the exposed tissue. You must take into account PO2 and
>duration of the exposure. Each person can have different levels of exposure
>they can handle and some will say they have the correct answers on this
>subject, but the only answer they have is for themselves or the test
>subject when pushing the limits.
>
>I could quote numerous lines from books, post, and many teachings. This
>would not make you any better at understanding it or make you a better
>diver. All things are debatable and each expert will have their own opinion
>on this huge subject.
>
>My personal thought is NEW techdivers should only spend 10 mins on 02 at a
>time and no one should never spend more than 20 minutes at a time on it.
>Only those who want to push the limits and brag how big their dick is would
>do that or if they are in a controlled environment.There are other things
>to take into consideration, damage to the lungs and the oxygen window.
>Breaks should be taken with your back gas, unless you are doing some
>serious bottom times or deep dives ect........ you should never see a deco
>that requires more than 30-40 mins on 02 and can be broken up very easy
>with back gas. If you were doing more than this then you would not have to
>ask any questions about 02 exposure.
>
>I am not an expert on it or claim to be. I just do the dives and survive
>them, which is my goal for me and those around me. Only Internet divers
>need so much basic information..............which brings us to you and the
>rest of this list.
>
>BTW I know I'm an ass, everyone around me knows I'm an ass. They also know
>I'm right and tell the truth.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>At 08:48 PM 9/4/02 -0300, The McLeods wrote:
> >    Listen JT,Maybe I am an inexperienced weenie,maybe I'm not,but your
an
> >ass.
> >    I dive regularly to over 200 ft with BT's around 25 mins,with the
> >required deco,run times are in the 60 to 70 min range.On these dives O2
> >exposure is not a risk,I know that,I was asking about 3 and 4 hour cave
> >dives.Since I'm planning some deeper dives this year,and the programs
> >showing O2 exposure at it's limit,do you not think it's wise to find out
>how
> >they control this on the real long dives.
> >    What do you mean the same way everyone else does it??I'm a wreck
> >diver,not a cave diver,and they don't teach this stuff at the agencies,so
> >I'm forced to ask asses like you.You know JT,up here in Canada,we think
>your
> >a dick head too.
> >
> >Randy
> >
> >
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