The problem is more that people believe best what they learn first, and the
problem is that most have learned the wrong things. We can show them the
right way, but they frequently revert to what they heard first. I know these
guys for years, and they came over from the Dark Side, but as you can see,
when they needed to believe us, they fell back on what they learned first.
The reason I talked to them about it now is that now they will believe me
about this stuff. At least they came to me after the fact and asked.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wendell Grogan [mailto:wgrogan@co*.ne*]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 8:02 PM
To: George Irvine
Cc: Mattias Segerdahl; techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Halcyon RB 80 Accident


I think there is an important point here-
You can give a fool the best training and the best equipment available,
and he'll still do something foolish.

I hope they were listening this time when you talked to them.
Wendell

George Irvine wrote:

>Well, first of all it has nothing to do with GUE, Halcyon or the RB 80, it
>has to do with two guys rocketing up from 500 feet in a cave , missing all
>the deep stops, getting bent while still in water, and then blowing off a
>bunch of upper level mandatory stops to get out into open water where their
>support divers were as they felt they needed help.
>
>The people who put out "reports" on this are the usual strokes down there
>who want to blame it on the dry suit, the RB or whatever while the answer
is
>right there in the graph of the dive.
>
>What is the matter, you did not get any response to your first troll?
>
>I talked to these guys and told them how this dive should have been done
and
>I don't think they will make these mistakes again. The difference is most
of
>you do not have anyone like me you can ask or that you would ask who can
>identify exactly what is right or wrong with these situations, because the
>organizations and people you associate with don't have the foggiest idea.
>
>I hear the Inspiration list is celebrating this accident as a "Halcyon"
>accident. Those guys have my scooters as well . Is this also a "Gavin
>accident"? Is this a Scuba Pro accident? Is it a Chevy Suburban accident?
>
>You know, most of you dumb fucks have no clue what any of this is all
about,
>do you?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mattias Segerdahl [mailto:mattias.segerdahl@co*.se*]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:56 AM
>To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: Halcyon RB 80 Accident
>
>
>Please, can someone from GUE, Halcyon, (or list) give more details about
>the
>accident with 2 divers using Halcyon RB80 last 20 August at Ceita Core
>Cavern, Bonito, Brazil.
>
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