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From: "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
To: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: O2 exposure
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:21:20 -0400
I see we have the idiot out again. What's the matter, JT, nobody giving you
any respect? Everyone laughing at you again?

I told you and your stroke buddies that if you were not happy, I will give
you your money back. You refused . You refused a trade for a Rodney scooter.
You continue to refuse to give me any feedback. You continue to pursue your
petty little resentful vendettas on here, wasting everyone's time and making
an ass of yourself.

If you want to play your "private email" game, ask your "buddies" for their
private emails to me attempting to apologize for you, and their private
emails saying that things are "getting better" up there, and that they are
"trying to improve" things up there. And ask for the ones where I tell them
they are wasting their time with you. Georgitsis tells me you are absolutely
hopeless, as do others who know you better. Get the private email where I
get "pounded" by Jarrod for selling scooters to complete strokes. I have no
defense for that. I had seen you in action and had no business selling you
scooters - my mistake. At least I can say that I did not have the benefit of
Andrew's assessment prior to making this mistake. In fact, in my defense, I
thought you guys were trying to learn. I was wrong.

Your boy the student can't read, his panties are in a wad because I will not
help him with anything but the scooter, he is as ignorant as you are ( see
his "private email" where he asks me " who is Pfizer" - beyond the pale) and
if he has problems with a species we found that is idiosyncratic to one cave
system, you illiterate moron, he can call the Smithsonian and complain.
Let's see now, we have one cave that has a certain parasite in the gills of
the crayfish that is only found in that one spot, we have a shrimp that is
only found in one other cave, we have bacteria and such , fungi and other
forms found that were previously unidentified, but the drug company Pfizer
( tell your boy how big they are ) analyzed them for me and gave us a full
written reports and had me collecting for them with their permits. Other
companies have been involved as well, other museums, universities, etc. I
hold licenses and permits to transport biologicals across international
boundaries, as well as other "passports" you don't need to know about, and
have been doing this longer than you have been diving or even driving a car
for that matter, and make a real contribution to every aspect of this sport
whereas you are a wannabe with an attitude.

Me , my project and my people have been the subject of many articles in
places like National Geographic, books like "Science in the Extreme", TV
shows like Nat Geo, Discovery, Outdoor Adventure, Fox TV, NHK, and others,
we work with several universities , government agencies and private
companies, we hold permits with the Federal Government to basically do
whatever we want due to our track record an skill at dealing in these things
, while you continue to be a loser who has staged more CFs than anyone on
the East Coast and how is down to a small band of hangers-on and groupie
ignoramuses who think you are the higher order since they can't even walk
and chew gum, so you look pretty good to them.

You have no idea what you are talking about, as usual. Petty little
"captain" JT. You have nothing anyone wants, and neither does anyone in your
group. Keep playing Marguerite's monkey with the rest of your pretenders.
You guys are a bad imitation of life, and a worse example of what happens
when a desperate need to prove something collides with a dangerous sport.

-----Original Message-----
From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 5:23 PM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re:O2 exposure


Randy,funny how you weenies can't take what you dish out, then you post for
help hoping an old smokie like Joe and a known liar like G will help you
out. That makes no difference to me. G can post all long detailed stuff
that is not really needed, to impress you novice divers.

The truth is I have over 1500 logged dives to depths(no students I don't
teach, I only do real dives) and CNS clock numbers that would make most of
you guys shit in your DS and bolt for the surface. I have never toxed and
only felt what COULD have been the symptoms of an oxtox once.

Also for WIW I along with a few others will be testing some decompression
gases, no I did not come up with them, Tom Sawicki did, I don't dream up
the stuff, I'm just the guy who will do it. Remember him George, he is the
guy who is pounding you in private right now as he does not care to post to
this list, it is too much of a waste of his time. He was not happy with
your scooter and the fact that you lied on Quest about the "idiosyncratic"
species and the 28 you found in Mexico. That is the area of his study and
every creditable find of these things is reported to him and his co worker
as they are the experts for them. Care to post his private emails to the
list? Maybe this will ring a bell....

And I love the "idiosyncratic" species. You might as well have said
hooogalabooogala species, it would have meant as much. Actually, maybe you
didn't lie, your just too ignorant to know what you found. It is just
amazing how you have been able to bully people into pulling the wool over
their own eyes about you.

Randy you are not a wreck diver with any status or notable dives, but you
are wrong. Many divers have toxed doing the 200ft weenie dives. Often the
cause is the start of the dive, weenies will often use a travel mix when it
is not needed because they have fear of a mix that is close to being
hypoxic or use it in their plan to reduce deco time (so they say). Then
they sometimes dive a hot mix like air because they think they are good on
it. All these things start the CNS clock rolling and then they try to
control it with deco mixes like 80/20. This is because they have a fear of
02 exposure and do not know how to manage the clock when it goes past or
gets close 100%.

100% on your CNS clock does not mean anything if you take breaks to reduce
the exposure . Which is how you really manage the clock.Oxygen poisoning is
determined by interactions between the oxygen dose and the relative
susceptibilities of the exposed tissue. You must take into account PO2 and
duration of the exposure. Each person can have different levels of exposure
they can handle and some will say they have the correct answers on this
subject, but the only answer they have is for themselves or the test
subject when pushing the limits.

I could quote numerous lines from books, post, and many teachings. This
would not make you any better at understanding it or make you a better
diver. All things are debatable and each expert will have their own opinion
on this huge subject.

My personal thought is NEW techdivers should only spend 10 mins on 02 at a
time and no one should never spend more than 20 minutes at a time on it.
Only those who want to push the limits and brag how big their dick is would
do that or if they are in a controlled environment.There are other things
to take into consideration, damage to the lungs and the oxygen window.
Breaks should be taken with your back gas, unless you are doing some
serious bottom times or deep dives ect........ you should never see a deco
that requires more than 30-40 mins on 02 and can be broken up very easy
with back gas. If you were doing more than this then you would not have to
ask any questions about 02 exposure.

I am not an expert on it or claim to be. I just do the dives and survive
them, which is my goal for me and those around me. Only Internet divers
need so much basic information..............which brings us to you and the
rest of this list.

BTW I know I'm an ass, everyone around me knows I'm an ass. They also know
I'm right and tell the truth.






At 08:48 PM 9/4/02 -0300, The McLeods wrote:
>    Listen JT,Maybe I am an inexperienced weenie,maybe I'm not,but your an
>ass.
>    I dive regularly to over 200 ft with BT's around 25 mins,with the
>required deco,run times are in the 60 to 70 min range.On these dives O2
>exposure is not a risk,I know that,I was asking about 3 and 4 hour cave
>dives.Since I'm planning some deeper dives this year,and the programs
>showing O2 exposure at it's limit,do you not think it's wise to find out
how
>they control this on the real long dives.
>    What do you mean the same way everyone else does it??I'm a wreck
>diver,not a cave diver,and they don't teach this stuff at the agencies,so
>I'm forced to ask asses like you.You know JT,up here in Canada,we think
your
>a dick head too.
>
>Randy
>
>
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