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From: "vze4cxbe" <vze4cxbe@ve*.ne*>
To: "VBTech list" <VBTech@ci*.co*>
Cc: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Perspective (Re: Marguerite's Monkey was RE: George's Scooter Support / WAS - Cheap parts?)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 19:59:53 -0400



> JT presides over nothing but clusterfucks, and is one of the least capable
> and least knowledgeable people on this list. If you or he could read,
there
> would be no discussion of any of this.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vze4cxbe [mailto:dive.master3@ve*.ne*]
> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 1:17 AM
> To: VBTech list
> Cc: Joel Markwell; George Irvine; dmdalton; Duane Liptak Jr.; Techdiver;
> 'Quest@Gu*. Com'
> Subject: Perspective (Re: Marguerite's Monkey was RE: George's Scooter
> Support / WAS - Cheap parts?)
>
>
> All
>
>
>     Obviously there need to be a moderaterator in this subject, I know JT,
> and he is annoying at best and an A S S H O L E at worst, but he does dive
and
> preside over more dives per year than anybody on this list, more than
> likely. Presiding over those dives he is looked upon as an expert in the
> field of diving........PERIOD
>
>     Me, I am an expert in the field of Reliability and Maintainability and
a
> diver, if the person who built, maintained, or sold, a widget that had a
> problem that he personally knew through experience could be better that is
> SCREWED UP. If that person were on the list, and did not supply that
> information to the rest of the list, improving there equipment YOU'RE AN
> A S S H O L E...... Professional and Personal Opinion!
>
>     This forum is for TECH DIVERS looking to share diving information,
> obviously there is a problem with this concept, but as I have detailed
above
> all parties concerned are A S S H O L E S. Ironically this pissing contest
started
> with differing opinions of the failure of either regulators or valve. Drop
> the damn subject because people are deleting the emails from this list and
> not reading them, defeating the purpose.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
> To: "VBTech list" <VBTech@ci*.co*>
> Cc: "Joel Markwell" <joeldm@mi*.co*>; "George Irvine"
> <trey@my*.ne*>; "dmdalton" <dmdalton2000@ya*.co*>; "Duane Liptak Jr."
> <dliptakjr@ea*.ne*>; "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>;
> "'Quest@Gu*. Com'" <quest@gu*.co*>
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 9:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Marguerite's Monkey was RE: George's Scooter Support / WAS -
> Cheap parts?
>
>
> > Joel, you said a whole lot of nothing, cave diving is for guys who get
> > seasick or don't live close enough to the ocean. The fact is I exposed
how
> > everyone got screwed with a cheap clutch in their scooters, while the
guy
> > who sold them doesn't even use that clutch in the scooters he uses on
his
> > real dives.
> >
> > Guys like you are so blind, you have to side with him or you have to
admit
> > he fucked you. Grow some balls.....
> >
> > If you got a Gavin with a plastic clutch then you got fucked, if you
paid
> > that fucker for a new clutch like the one he uses, then you believe you
> > should have always had it and didn't know it until I exposed it, then
you
> > let him fuck you again.
> >
> > The old saying is "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on
> me".
> >
> > Joel, I do think you can be saved....... there is an operation to get
you
> > removed off his ass, there has been some success and I've heard recovery
> > time is very fast........
> >
> >
> >
> > At 08:23 PM 8/16/02 -0400, Joel Markwell wrote:
> > >On 8/15/02 6:50 PM, "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Since you think the story was good......
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 06:07 PM 8/14/02 -0400, JT wrote:
> > > >>  I do not think "Monkey see Monkey do" is really about diving, but
> I'm
> > > >> sure you think there is a connection, at least it sounds good to
the
> > > >> neophytes and the ass kissers.
> > > >
> > > > ........ at least tell us which one you are from the 2 choices I
give
> > > above.
> > >
> > >Sorry, Quasimodo, you don't get to make the choices.  When I talk
> > >respectfully of my original instructor or George or my dive buds, that
> isn't
> > >ass-kissing, that's sincere regard for their skills and their
willingness
> to
> > >share what they've learned.
> > >
> > >If you can find a more successful group of cave divers than the WKPP
> working
> > >today, please tell me who they are -- I'll pay attention to what they
> have
> > >to say. If you think listening, learning, adapting and changing are
> somehow
> > >the signs of an ass-kisser and/or a neophyte then you are indeed a very
> > >strange and misguided individual. Either that or you need a dictionary.
> > >
> > >Personally, I think you're letting your rancor towards George make you
> sound
> > >stupider than you probably actually are. So tell me, of the two
choices,
> > >pissed off or stupid, which are you -- or is it both?
> > >
> > >Come to think of it, I don't get to make the choices either . . . .
> > >
> > > >> Boring, boring, boring!
> > > >
> > > > Joel from an earlier post I made......below
> > >
> > > >>This would not carry on so long if the guys that kiss your ass would
> not
> > > >>jump out and post, prolonging the facts.
> > >
> > >So you want to control who posts? Only people who agree with you are
> > >acceptable, I suppose? Yes, people who speak up in a discussion do
> prolong
> > >it, that's true (geez) . . . but then, you can quit any time you wish.
> > >
> > >So take a deep breath, get that distracting image of George's ass out
of
> > >your head and chill, go diving. It should help you relax if you do it
> right.
> > >
> > >Quasimodo was deaf, you don't have to be. I think everyone here has the
> same
> > >goal, safe and effective technical diving. It's just that there are a
lot
> of
> > >strange and poorly thought-out ideas of how to get there. You'll have
> more
> > >success if you challenge ideas and not people.
> > >
> > >BTW, facts don't get prolonged, arguments do.
> > >
> > >JoeL
> >
> >
> > "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in
> the
> > water"
> > Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
> >   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> > Email     captjt@mi*.co*
> >
> >
> >
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