George, just deal with Brad in private, all you and I would ever do is 
fight....... if I was talking about some other scooter, you would be 
pounding away and all for it, even on my side.



At 07:08 AM 8/12/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:
>JT, the only thing you can "prove" by this is that you have still failed to
>call me and get what you need. Do you need my number? 954-328-2611 any time
>day or night, just like everyone else does.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
>Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 9:03 PM
>To: George Irvine; dmdalton; Duane Liptak Jr.; techdiver@aquanaut.com;
>'Quest@Gu*. Com'; George Irvine
>Cc: vbtech@ci*.co*
>Subject: RE: George's Scooter Support / WAS - Cheap parts?
>
>
>Mine runs fine, you tested that one. What the others do is up to them, I'm
>sure they just would rather have them working than anything. This would not
>carry on so long if the guys that kiss your ass would not jump out and
>post, prolonging the facts. I only post things I can prove.
>
>
>At 08:29 PM 8/11/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:
> >JT, like I said, all of you can send them back and I will refund all of
>your
> >money. You bought the first round of wreck scooters, you got them yesterday
> >when you wanted them, I told you I would take care of anything and I did.
> >
> >The bottom line here is I don't like you and you don't like me. Nothing
>more
> >, nothing less, only no matter how much I dislike you , I still took care
>of
> >whatever needed taking care of. And no matter how much you don't like me,
> >you have my scooter. So either get over it or sell it back to me and get
>one
> >of Rod's,
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> >Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 4:04 PM
> >To: dmdalton; Duane Liptak Jr.; techdiver@aquanaut.com; 'Quest@Gu*.
> >Com'; George Irvine
> >Cc: vbtech@ci*.co*
> >Subject: Re: George's Scooter Support / WAS - Cheap parts?
> >
> >
> >At 06:26 PM 8/10/02 -0700, dmdalton wrote:
> >
> >Look, "Drift & Bob" Dalton your the biggest lair I have heard in a very
> >long time,  Tom and Brad do not post bullshit or like to get involved in
> >debates after getting screwed. They got the scooters, one is Dave's old one
> >and Tom got his from G. Both are not real happy.......... Brad has been
> >emailing G in private of which I am kept informed of..........Tom doesn't
> >want to even talk to him after the last round of pounding G gave him over a
> >broken switch that G said probably got broke during building, but here read
> >this if you have any doubts.....
> >
> >At 09:46 PM 8/7/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> > >Too funny.  I had no idea.  JT, your post to Jim Thompson was right on,
> > >the conversation to George was exactly as you stated it.
> > >
> > >later,
> > >
> > >tom
> >
> >read on
> >
> > >After I first used the scooter I found it took in a
> > >small amount of water. I called George, told him the
> > >problem and let HIM diagnose it. He told me the
> > >solution and shipped me a replacement nose cone that
> > >day, no charge. I took the scooter out with the new
> > >nose cone and problem solved!
> >
> >Dalton you are so stupid.......... while trying to kiss up to G's ass you
> >expose the fact that now 4 out of 5 of the scooters he sent us had
> >problems, can we safely now say that he does NO QA of his scooters at all
> >before sending them out............
> >
> >
> >
> > >Yes JT has had, and destroyed, more scooters than most
> > >folks have ever owned.  And while JT has 3 scooters,
> > >he uses one of George's he got from someone else
> > >because his other two are in pieces.
> >
> >You are still a  lair.......... all are running, the Apollo always has, I
> >don't even use the Gavin on the small dives or for digging its to dam big.
> >
> > >  He has pretty
> > >well destroyed them while trying to re-design his
> > >Apollos into "Gavin look alikes". However, when I last
> > >saw one of then in April, it looked a bit more like
> > >the "Bride of Frankenstein".
> >
> >You still don't know WTF you are talking about, the "Frankenstein" when you
> >saw it was to be tested that day, I had never even had it in the water. We
> >didn't have time and Cobb was fucking with it and the trigger wire came
>off.
> >
> >One thing we did learn from your post, every scooter but the first one has
> >had problems.
> >
> >Cobb/JT first scooter OK ..... Todd reed switch problem ..... Tom reed
> >switch , now clutch...... Dave/Brad ran backwards, now clutch and
> >trigger....... "Drift & Bob" Dalton leaked, bad nose cone.
> >The sixth scooter was an SS, Bill got it, he thought it wasn't fast enough,
> >Rod took him on a dive and proved it was fine, it has never leaked, broke
> >down or trigger stuck......
> >
> >Dalton, at least let G know you are going to post so he can pull his dick
> >back in so you don't step on it so hard.......
> >
> >
> > >Dave Dalton
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*> wrote:
> > > > Hi Duane
> > > > So you really see no problem with him selling Gavins
> > > > with parts in them
> > > > that he does not even use in his own. The scooters
> > > > are said to be the best,
> > > > they are even advertised as having gold
> > > > superconnectors, with all of these
> > > > statements a 5 dollars plastic clutch is put in it
> > > > and sent to the buyer.
> > > > You telling me that's OK with you, did he do it to
> > > > you? I saw nothing on
> > > > the options page about a choice in clutches, only a
> > > > mention in the owners
> > > > manual part and it does not say anything in great
> > > > detail about it, only how
> > > > to set the clutch with the washers and such. No cost
> > > > is found for it in
> > > > pricing, unless someone who already knows this stuff
> > > > tells you, you buy the
> > > > scooter blind to this fact. Hopefully now everyone
> > > > is aware of this and
> > > > know what to ask for.......
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    At 11:20 PM 8/7/02 -0500, Duane Liptak Jr. wrote:
> > > > >The whole Gavin maintenance deal is really
> > > > simplified once you understand
> > > > >that the things are virtual tanks, if anything IS
> > > > wrong, it's probably
> > > > >something that the operator screwed up because they
> > > > didn't know how it
> > > > >worked, and that if there is a problem, ask Trey,
> > > > without TELLING him what
> > > > >you think the diagnosis should be.  Cotton in the
> > > > appropriate place, if
> > > > >necessary.  He'll of course know exactly what the
> > > > problem is, and you'll be
> > > > >back on the trigger in no time.  The only problem
> > > > I've really had with mine
> > > > >is wearing out blades by diving the shit out of
> > > > them.  I, of course, thought
> > > > >that I had screwed something up, but a phone call
> > > > to Trey, new blades a
> > > > >couple of days later, and viola...back in the
> > > > saddle.
> > > > >
> > > > >Duane
> > > > >
> > > > >Subject: RE: Cheap parts - video? RE: Cut to the
> > > > chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova
> > > > >Tech
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I had a few problems with the reed in mine. I
> > > > was told by JT (the other
> > > > > > JT) that George was using the new more expensive
> > > > reed because of
> > > > > > pressure from customers who were being swayed by
> > > > the fact that Rodney
> > > > > > uses a quality reed whereas George's old
> > > > scooters just used a cheap
> > > > > > Radio Shack one, even though the cheap one
> > > > worked fine. But apparently
> > > > > > the more expensive one is more finicky so, on
> > > > Jim's advice (relayed from
> > > > > > George) I threw it away and replaced it with the
> > > > cheap one - no more
> > > > > > problems.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And George was nothing but helpful in getting
> > > > the problems sorted out -
> > > > > > even sending me a free replacement relay when I
> > > > insisted that I thought
> > > > > > the problem was in there (George said it would
> > > > be the reed from the
> > > > > > start - should've listened).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Jim
> > > > > > > I will not say the scooters are not fun and do
> > > > not get the job done.
> > > > > > What
> > > > > > > happen was 2 of the scooters would stick on or
> > > > not come on. George
> > > > > > said to
> > > > > > > rotate the reed switch, this worked for one.
> > > > The other would still
> > > > > > stick
> > > > > > > on, I told the guy he had a bad switch or
> > > > something. We also found
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > latch was placed right over the switch and if
> > > > you unclipped it the
> > > > > > scooter
> > > > > > > would finally cut off. The only thing we could
> > > > figure was that the
> > > > > > > pressure
> > > > > > > from the latch was distorting the reed switch.
> > > > The guy email this to
> > > > > > > George
> > > > > > > and George pounded him on "How the hell is the
> > > > water pressure doing
> > > > > > that",
> > > > > > > some kind of communication break down happened
> > > > and the guy didn't want
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > get pounded by G again, so I told him to just
> > > > tell G to send another
> > > > > > > switch
> > > > > > > and just pay for it. That fixed the problem.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The clutches are a separate issue, I do not
> > > > think anyone knew they
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > getting a cheap clutch or that there was a
> > > > different one that G uses.
> > > > > > All
> > > > > > > the guys saw was the one that Cobb got and it
> > > > worked fine, the
> > > > > > following
> > > > > > > ones had minor problems, one ran
> > > > backwards....... I did not even know
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > the scooters needing a better clutch and one
> > > > would think that G would
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > even offer them to anyone with less than the
> > > > best parts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Rodney no longer puts the slower motor in
> > > > his because of the posting
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > put out on how slow Christina's was. Now the
> > > > buyer will only get the
> > > > > > best
> > > > > > > and does not have an option, G needs to do the
> > > > same thing so the buyer
> > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > not feel short changed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > >
> > >"You just can't show up for "Game Day" and expect to win.
> > >   You've got to go to practice if you want to be ready!"
> > >
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