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Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:39:01 +0200
From: mat.voss@t-*.de* (Matthias Voss)
To: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
CC: George Irvine <trey@my*.ne*>,
     Christian Gerzner , techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
So human error is part of the GUE partner check drill ?
Must be difficult to reproduce on constant terms though.

...Sure she breathed from the right reg ? Breathing from the primary
while the backup had been closed again would change the spg's reading as
well...
Just my 2cc
Matthias

Capt JT schrieb:
> 
> At 10:56 PM 8/6/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:
> 
> > I am almost afraid to ask. What is the "buddy check" thing they do?
> 
> Parts of the below email are from the report posted from one of the 2
> that quit diving after 2 DIR fundamentals classes. With all the checks
> and double checks, the only thing missing was someone saying Roger
> Roger and they could have been in Star Wars I The Phantom Menace as
> one of the robots..........Still with all the practice and 2 classes,
> they claim the OOA drill went smooth and then 2 days later announced
> at the NOVA Tech meeting diving was over......... doesn't sound to me
> like it went smooth, more like I saw my life flash before my eyes
> during my panic.........
> 
> At 08:01 PM 7/24/02 -0400, xxxx wrote:
> 
> We have really started doing the pre-dive gear check that GUE teaches
> in the fundamentals course and it has already saved some people some
> minor discomfort by identifying things prior to getting in the water.
> It's a great way to ensure you and your buddy are squared away before
> getting in the water.  I was leading the drill for me and xxxxxxx and
> I didn't hear her say "check" after checking her backup while looking
> at her SPG.  I turned and said, did you check it?  She said yes, but I
> asked her to do it again while I was watching.  She checked the valve
> open, and breathed another 3 breaths off of the back up while looking
> at the SPG.  She swears that the SPG was steady for all three
> inhalations.
> 
> 
> 
> Obviously a mistake had been made somewhere.  Maybe she turned it off
> when in the boat by accident I don't know, but I witnessed her
> checking it at least once and she swears that she had done it once
> before too (the check includes taking 3 long breaths off of the reg).
> I have a theory about what happened but I'll let JT stew over that one
> for a while.  Either way, a mistake was made and it was time to deal
> with it.  The reason we train this way is so that it's all natural and
> part of our muscle memory when something happens whether it be gear or
> human error.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 8:04 PM
> > To: George Irvine; Christian Gerzner
> > Cc: George Irvine; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > Subject: RE: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> >
> >
> > At 07:06 AM 8/5/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:
> > >Christian, the guy is full of shit. He is his usual resentful self
> > here. He
> > >bought one of them from Jim Cobb who quit diving as did two other
> > guys
> > after
> > >Andrew's fundamentals class. If they were so bad, why did they stay
> > in the
> > >team. The fact is the guys who did have any problems or questions
> > >immediately called me or emailed and I took care of it or told them
> > what to
> > >do.
> >
> > Lets get it right , the truth is Cobb has quit for that and other
> > reasons...... the other 2 took the fundamentals TWICE and had it
> > down so
> > pat one almost killed the other with the BUDDY CHECK shit they think
> > they
> > learn in the class. Then they quit diving............
> >
> >
> >
> > "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get
> > in the
> > water"
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> >
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