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From: James Dibbs <James.Dibbs@op*.co*.au*>
To: "'Cameron Fraser'" <cameron.fraser@ns*.sy*.ca*>,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Deco Station design assistance
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:46:46 +1000

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I found that most deco stops like this end up floating at a 45 degree angle
if there is any current. This means that half your deco stop points become
useless because they are too shallow.
 
The best systems I've seen in Australia use a heavy, weighted chain hanging
vertically from a buoy. You simply swim up to the chain, attach a jon line
to one of the links, drift back and hang on to the other end. 
 
This allows several divers to be clipped in around the same spot without
bumping into each other too much. 
 
It also means that in a big swell, the diver does not get his arm yanked up
and  down by holding on to a horizontal bar.
 
Hope this helps
 
James Dibbs
Sydney, Australia

-----Original Message-----
From: Cameron Fraser [mailto:cameron.fraser@ns*.sy*.ca*]
Sent: Thursday, 8 August 2002 10:42 AM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Deco Station design assistance


Any insight/plans/photos/design info for a deco station would be greatly
appreciated.  I am looking to advance along the learning curve of the list,
being in a far northern climate, it could ice up here any day and the season
would be cut short ;-), thus reducing the ability to test dive/hang the
device.
 
For background:
Location is North Atlantic, Nova Scotia
Currents are sometimes an issue, mainly ebb and flow of tides
Presently the other individuals that have exerted themselves to create a
station have dropped 10 feet of 3 inch diameter tube from the side of the
vessel. It works, however the user requires an engineered jon line
constructed from a bungee jump line!
 
 
Present thoughts are to hang vertical lines from balloons (AKA big orange
commercial grade floats).  At the various stop depths there would be be a
cross section of line spiced in and a galvanized square tube or other rigid
section (? electrical conduit) inserted to hold the spread of the station.
The conduit comes in 10 foot lengths -> the spread would probably end up in
the 10 foot range.  This would be repeated at various levels, i.e. 20, 30
and maybe as far as 40.
Taking into account the operating procedure of the dive vessel, the device
would remain tethered to the vessel (tether attaching the vessel to a
balloon); the tether being the dynamic linkage, allowing for the 'normal' 4+
feet of wave action.
 
Pictures will be provided of the end product for the benefit of all who
assist/are interested.


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<DIV><SPAN class=412213702-08082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I 
found that most deco stops like this end up floating at a 45 degree angle if 
there is any current. This means that half your deco stop points become useless 
because they are too shallow.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=412213702-08082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=412213702-08082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The 
best systems I've seen in Australia use a heavy, weighted chain hanging 
vertically from a buoy. You simply swim up to the chain, attach a jon line 
to one of the links, drift back and hang on to the other end. 
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=412213702-08082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=412213702-08082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>This 
allows several divers to be clipped in around the same spot without 
bumping into each other too much. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=412213702-08082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=412213702-08082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>It 
also means that in a big swell, the diver does not get his arm yanked up 
and  down by holding on to a horizontal bar.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=412213702-08082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=412213702-08082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Hope 
this helps</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=412213702-08082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=412213702-08082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>James 
Dibbs</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=412213702-08082002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Sydney, Australia</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cameron Fraser 
  [mailto:cameron.fraser@ns*.sy*.ca*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 8
August 
  2002 10:42 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
techdiver@aquanaut.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Deco 
  Station design assistance<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=470191900-08082002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Any 
  insight/plans/photos/design info for a deco station would be greatly 
  appreciated.  I am looking to advance along the learning curve of the 
  list, being in a far northern climate, it could ice up here any day and the 
  season would be cut short ;-), thus reducing the ability to test dive/hang
the 
  device.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=470191900-08082002><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=470191900-08082002><FONT face=Arial size=2>For 
  background:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=470191900-08082002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Location
is North 
  Atlantic, Nova Scotia</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=470191900-08082002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Currents
are 
  sometimes an issue, mainly ebb and flow of tides</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=470191900-08082002><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Presently the 
  other individuals that have exerted themselves to create a station have 
  dropped 10 feet of 3 inch diameter tube from the side of the vessel. It 
  works, however the user requires an engineered jon line 
  constructed from a bungee jump line!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=470191900-08082002><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=470191900-08082002><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=470191900-08082002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Present
thoughts 
  are to hang vertical lines from balloons (AKA big orange commercial grade 
  floats).  At the various stop depths there would be be a cross section
of 
  line spiced in and a galvanized square tube or other rigid section (? 
  electrical conduit) inserted to hold the spread of the station.  The 
  conduit comes in 10 foot lengths -> the spread would probably end up in
the 
  10 foot range.  This would be repeated at various levels, i.e. 20, 30
and 
  maybe as far as 40.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=470191900-08082002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Taking
into 
  account the operating procedure of the dive vessel, the device would remain 
  tethered to the vessel (tether attaching the vessel to a balloon); the tether 
  being the dynamic linkage, allowing for the 'normal' 4+ feet of wave 
  action.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=470191900-08082002><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=470191900-08082002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pictures
will be 
  provided of the end product for the benefit of all who assist/are 
  interested.</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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