I rented a new one, it has a guy in it with a 12" cock that looked just 
like you......... I guess it could have been you, he had it in his mouth :-)


At 06:14 PM 8/4/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:

>Maybe he needs to rent a Johnny Holmes movie and watch it in the hot tub. By
>the way, shows you how old I am - have they found a replacement for that guy
>yet?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David B. Widen [mailto:dwiden@co*.ne*]
>Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 3:49 PM
>To: 'George Irvine'; 'Jim Cobb'
>Cc: joe@po*.co*; 'Capt JT'; techdiver@aquanaut.com; 'VB Tech'
>Subject: RE: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
>
>
>George
>
>JT & Nancy now have a hot tub so that may help the getting laid part the
>rest we will work on.
>
>David W
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: George Irvine [mailto:trey@my*.ne*]
>Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:05 AM
>To: Jim Cobb
>Cc: joe@po*.co*; Capt JT; techdiver@aquanaut.com; VB Tech
>Subject: RE: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
>
>Cittelli is a Brooklyn Italian, and that alone is my favorite thing
>about
>him - he talks like Rocky, he looks like Rocky,and he is a riot.
>
>JT needs to lose the paranoia and the constant combativeness with
>everything
>we do and say down here. Jeez, the guy gets caught red handed diving
>with
>Christina Young and then she calls him a stroke.
>
>You and I both love the funny stuff on the list, and if it were ever get
>to
>where it was "civilized", like that worthless rebreather list, I would
>start
>a new list myself.
>
>Take JT out and get him laid or something.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*]
>Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 9:43 AM
>To: girvine@be*.ne*
>Cc: joe@po*.co*; Capt JT; techdiver@aquanaut.com; VB Tech
>Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
>
>
>Well, from this interchange I can see that both Joe and JT can get a
>little carried away. You are the second person I respect as a diver to
>vouch for Joe, so then I will shut up about him.
>
>These are the "lists" however, and people have the right to make
>themselves look like idiots whenever they want. I have exsersized that
>right on a few occasions. Hell, it spices things up and invigorates the
>discussion in my opinion. Nothing hampers the free flow of information
>more than political correctness.
>
>Someone sent me an email asking me if I had blacklisted them from VBtech
>for using foul language (his ISP got on the SPAM filter list). I rolled
>on
>the floor laughing at that one. I replied that you are required to use
>the
>7 words you can't say on television as much as possible, they are much
>more effective than "emoticons" in conveying how you really feel on a
>subject.
>
>As far as the name calling, well I am apparently forever a huge fat slob
>no matter how much weight I drop and I guess Joe will now forever be
>known
>as a short, bald ugly bastard even after the implants and plastic
>surgery.
>
>     Jim
>
>
>On Saturday, August 3, 2002, at 07:59 AM, George Irvine wrote:
>
> > Actually, Cittelli has been wreck diving longer than I have , which is
> > more
> > than 15 years. He took "fundamentals" from me 10 years ago. He just
>doesn'
> > t
> > usually say much, Jim, so you guys may not know him. If you did know
>him,
> > you would like him as he is about as funny as it gets. He is also
> > extremely
> > skilled in the water.
> >
> > Diving or no diving, you guys up there need to get a grip on JT. The
> > problems are extreme - the constant trying to prove something, the
>tough
> > guy
> > attitude and the challenging of new divers, and the petty paranoid
> > nonsense.
> >
> > I disagree with how he is doing things, but that discussion never
>seems to
> > get past his nonsense.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*]
> > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:05 PM
> > To: joe@po*.co*
> > Cc: Capt JT; techdiver@aquanaut.com; VB Tech
> > Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> >
> >
> > Unlike that band of backstabbing pirates you assotiate with, we stick
> > together up here. And when I see lies I call em. So, Joe, how did
>*you*
> > do in GUE fundamentals? Why, I will bet you can teach the class with
> > that winning personality of yours. No, on the other hand you'd better
> > stick to rebuilding compressors. You seem to be good at pumping out
>hot
> > air.
> >
> > Yes, your diving resume is part of the equation. If George decides to
> > hammer JT he's got a right to. You, on the other hand, appear to be a
> > simpleton and a fool. Once again, who are you? What trips have you
>run?
> > What kind of condtions do you dive in? Simple questions, simple
>answers.
> > I am sure the whole list would like to know.
> >
> > Buy the way I hear you are one ugly motherfucker. Could peel the paint
> > off a flagpole. You have to wear a hat all the time so people know
>which
> > end to talk to. When you popped out of your mama the doctor didn't
>know
> > whether to put you in the crib or flush you down the crapper. Not only
> > that you are a short, fat ugly fucker.
> >
> > Not a hotshot diver? Shit, you have done everything except howl at the
> > moon as to what a divegod you are. What bullshit.
> >
> > On Friday, August 2, 2002, at 05:17 AM, <joe@po*.co*> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, well.  If it isn't Oliver Hardy.  Stan Laurel has his ass in a
> >> sling
> >> so you have to bail him out.  I'm not the big shot Captain with the
>web
> >> site
> >> telling the world how great I am.  My "bonafides" aren't even in the
> >> equasion.  I never claimed to be a hot shot diver.  JT has a web site
> >> so I
> >> guess that makes him an expert.  I just want him to validate his
>claims
> >> but
> >> it seems he can't.
> >>
> >> I am still waiting for an answer to the questions I asked.  You just
> >> keep
> >> blowing smoke but duck the questions.  You said:
> >>
> >>>>>> On the ML the zodiac is on the upper deck with a small boom
> >>>>>> winch to deploy/sto the unit. It is rarely used, and you now what
> >>>>>>>>> that means as far at the motor in concerned.
> >>
> >> Your words, not mine.  To me that is a state of disrepair.
> >>
> >> Well, I'm off to do a weekend of diving so I have no more time to
>play
> >> here.
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >> BTW - Trust me on this - I'm just a guy that loves to dive - it is
>not
> >> my
> >> business - and I am tired off seeing the sport screwed up by jackoffs
> >> like
> >> JT - but neither of you guys could qualify to carry my tanks.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>
> >> To: "Joe" <joe@po*.co*>
> >> Cc: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; "VB
> >> Tech"
> >> <vbtech@ci*.co*>
> >> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 7:22 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> >>
> >>
> >>> All right, let's cut the bullshit, Joe. You are lying now. First off
>I
> >>> said that the chase boat on this particular dive boat is hard to
> >>> deploy,
> >>> not "in a state of disrepair". Also I said that JT ensures the chase
> >>> boat is running, fueled and ready before even leaving the dock.
> >>>
> >>> I will also add that, unlike your pussy 100' vis 10min boat ride
> >>> florida
> >>> dives (done in wetsuits with steel tanks, from all the pictures I've
> >>> seen on Barnett's web site), the tech dives up here take hours to
>get
> >>> to, most of the time through big seas.
> >>>
> >>> Tech dives up here take days of planning and coordination and are
>not
> >>> considered afternoon larks like you FL divers. The dives are deep,
>dark
> >>> and cold. You could spend weeks preparing, be geared up, tanked up
>with
> >>> HE the night before and have the dive called. What do you do then?
>You
> >>> suck it up and get ready for the next trip.
> >>>
> >>> You Florida knuckleheads would be whining and moaning the whole way.
> >>> Everytime you MF's come up here you spend the whole trip out and
>back
> >>> barfing over the side rolled up in a green ball.
> >>>
> >>> And, Joe, what exactly are *your* bonafides? JT has an entire
>website
> >>> with hundreds of pictures and hundreds of witnesses who can state
> >>> exactly what kind of diver he is. You can criticize him all you want
> >>> but
> >>> you don't do the number of dives JT does and survive out of sheer
> >>> chance. JT has a track record of planning, executing and surviving
> >>> hundreds of dives of all depths in all conditions.
> >>>
> >>> You, on the other hand, nobody has never heard of, has no track
>record
> >>> of any kind and appears to be a sock puppet for Barnett and company.
> >>> How
> >>> pitiful. I did some snooping on the internet and cannot find a
>single
> >>> bit of information on anything to do with you and diving.
> >>>
> >>> (I know, I know, now you are going to pull out the "oh look at Cobb,
> >>> who
> >>> quit diving running his mouth again". Well at least when I dove I
>told
> >>> the truth and didn't sit there with some puppetmaster pulling my
> >>> strings. Sure George and I collaborated on a couple of projects on
>this
> >>> list that needed working on, but I never said anything that did not
> >>> need
> >>> saying.)
> >>>
> >>> So, Joe, why don't you sit down and shut the fuck up until you can
> >>> prove, as JT has done, that you actually dive, that you dive in
> >>> something other than than gin-clear bathtubs and have planned,
>setup,
> >>> paid for and run multi-day technical dives? Maybe you do, maybe you
> >>> don't. Nobody knows. Do you fish or do you chop bait? Let's see your
> >>> cards, buddy. Just who the fuck are *you*?
> >>>
> >>>     Jim
> >>>
> >>> On Friday, August 2, 2002, at 06:12 PM, Joe wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "I said I consider myself as failed the class"
> >>>>
> >>>> OK JT.  That much we agree on.  So lets really cut to the chase and
> >>>> stop the
> >>>> smoke screen nonsense.  Artifacts, scooters and dirty little
>secrets
> >>>> have
> >>>> nothing to do with this thread and you are using them as a
>distraction
> >>>> from
> >>>> the real issues.
> >>>>
> >>>> Explain to all of us why you keep avoiding the original topics
>which
> >>>> among
> >>>> other things included a discussion about the methodology employed
>when
> >>>> drift
> >>>> diving.  If you recall, I wanted to know why you would anchor into
>a
> >>>> wreck
> >>>> with an inoperable chase boat instead of live boating.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also would like to know why if YOU are doing a "big" dive you
>make
> >>>> sure
> >>>> the chase boat is in good working order but the norm is for it to
>be
> >>>> in a
> >>>> state of disrepair.  Is your life more valuable than that of your
> >>>> paying
> >>>> passengers?
> >>>>
> >>>> By virtue your email footer it is clear that you attempt to promote
> >>>> yourself
> >>>> as some form of wreck diving guru.  Yet you cannot pass muster on
> >>>> something
> >>>> simple like buoyancy control and get flustered if they take away
>your
> >>>> mask.
> >>>> I would bet that if a customer failed as you did you would be real
> >>>> quick to
> >>>> limit his diving.
> >>>>
> >>>> The problems you described on your scooter clearly indicate that
>you
> >>>> haven't
> >>>> the foggiest clue as to how they work.  I know I am correct because
>my
> >>>> bird
> >>>> called me last night and told me that you shouldn't be scooter
>diving.
> >>>> He
> >>>> said that the chimp was pretty smart but that you wouldn't listen
>to
> >>>> him.
> >>>>
> >>>> After all of this, you still have the gall to get on these lists
>and
> >>>> boast
> >>>> about 400 ft. scooter dives.  You really should follow your own
>advice
> >>>> and
> >>>> get off the net and into the water.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, you use "  Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East
> >>>> Coast &
> >>>> more  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/" in your email footer.  Who
>in
> >>>> their
> >>>> right mind would let you guide them anywhere?
> >>>>
> >>>> Quit the smoke and mirrors game and answer the questions or shut up
> >>>> and
> >>>> sit
> >>>> in the corner.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards.
> >>>>
> >>>> Joe
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
> >>>> To: "Joe" <joe@po*.co*>; "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
> >>>> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:13 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> You got me on that, I said I consider myself as failed the class,
> >>>>> even
> >>>>> though there is no pass or fail, I said it so it must be true,
>just
> >>>>> like
> >>>>> everything else I say.........don't you get the picture or are you
>so
> >>>>> much
> >>>>> of a lair you will be anything to cover your friends.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have a picture that Seawolf sent me of one of the portholes
>being
> >>>>> sent
> >>>> up
> >>>>> and he named the jpg, " Gov. Artifact Theft" . That should say it
>all
> >>>> right
> >>>>> there...........
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    At 02:13 PM 8/1/02 -0700, Joe wrote:
> >>>>>> Let me see if I have this right.  You are unable to address any
>of
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> issues re your incompetence (failed Fundamentals - BTW that is
>kind
> >>>>>> of
> >>>> like
> >>>>>> flunking out of kindergarten) so you change the subject and whine
> >>>>>> about
> >>>>>> scooter problems that a chimp could fix.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now, after you publicly admit that you can't dive (no basic
>inwater
> >>>> skills)
> >>>>>> and have no clue as to how your scooter works, (as evidenced by
>this
> >>>> post)
> >>>>>> and yet you boast about taking it on a 400' dive.  You sure set a
> >>>>>> great
> >>>>>> example.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I will help you out on this.  I am sending my talking macaw up
>there
> >>>>>> to
> >>>> tell
> >>>>>> you how to fix the scooters.  Pay close attention to everything
>he
> >>>>>> says
> >>>>>> because he is much smarter than the chimp.  After he gets you
> >>>>>> squared
> >>>> away
> >>>>>> on the scooter, he can coach you on your next big dive.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Joe
> >>>>>> PS- The bird really likes peanuts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "Capt JT" <captjt@mi*.co*>
> >>>>>> To: "George Irvine" <trey@my*.ne*>
> >>>>>> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; <vbtech@ci*.co*>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:23 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> George, make any suggestion you want, it matters not to me. But
>you
> >>>> can
> >>>>>>> help us up here. We are having some problems with your scooters
>and
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> guys are a bit reluctant about asking you how to fix them. 2 of
> >>>>>>> them
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> clutch is slipping and the trigger keeps coming off of one. Any
> >>>>>> suggestions
> >>>>>>> on the clutch problem, the scooters are unusable at this time.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    At 09:21 PM 7/30/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:
> >>>>>>>> JT, let's cut to the chase here: everytime I make a suggestion
>,
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>> want
> >>>>>>>> to fight about it while ignoring the suggestion. If anyone else
> >>>>>>>> makes
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>> same suggestion, you want to "challenge" them to a dive.  Just
> >>>>>>>> ague
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>> suggestion, not what you think I do or did or what anyone else
> >>>>>>>> does .
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Everytime there is a real idiot, like the guy on the Seeker who
> >>>>>>>> wants
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>> battle with me or my friends, you want to defend them. If you
>want
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>> keep
> >>>>>>>> doing that, take it off line. You can express your paranoia and
> >>>>>>>> your
> >>>>>>>> concern about my "agenda" without wasting everyone else's time.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You are so upset that people listen to me, and you are
>especially
> >>>>>> concerned
> >>>>>>>> if they buy some piece of gear that I use. Why don't you take
>over
> >>>> for me
> >>>>>>>> and show everyone what the good stuff is? ( I can answer why
>you
> >>>>>>>> do
> >>>> not
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> why nobody listens to you - you don't have any and you don't
> >>>>>>>> know).
> >>>> But
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> can stay all upset about it. Most of the jerks who want to
>fight
> >>>>>>>> with
> >>>> me
> >>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>> the time have the same beef, only no better answers.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You get on here year after year with stories of deaths ,
>accidents
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>> clusterfucks with your latest "confession" ( like failing
> >>>> Fundamentals),
> >>>>>>>> and then go do the same things over and over and over again
>while
> >>>>>> expecting
> >>>>>>>> different results. Then you want to assume that everyone else
>has
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>> same
> >>>>>>>> self-imposed problems, and go into paranoia mode about it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You need to worry about yourself. You are not qualified to
>worry
> >>>> about
> >>>>>>>> anyone else. By the way, your "tough guy" attitude about diving
>is
> >>>> Page
> >>>>>> One
> >>>>>>>> definition of a stroke.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:43 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: girvine@be*.ne*
> >>>>>>>> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com; vbtech@ci*.co*
> >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I see the truth really gets to you, blows your cover of doing
> >>>> everything
> >>>>>>>> right and by the book. I am the biggest thorn in your back
> >>>>>>>> because I
> >>>> just
> >>>>>>>> tell the truth, nothing more. I do not have to claim to dive in
> >>>>>>>> 28ft
> >>>> seas
> >>>>>>>> (funny how it was reduced to a mere 19ft at the next DIR class
>and
> >>>> then
> >>>>>>>> increased the deep dive of 475ft to the following) or do 575ft
> >>>>>>>> dives
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>> impress the class, most students are of the new type and just
> >>>>>>>> eager
> >>>> to
> >>>>>> fit
> >>>>>>>> in with someone or group and believe anything. I've been around
> >>>> awhile
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> tend to check out the facts or just laugh at the obvious.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to
> >>>>>>> get
> >>>> in
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> water"
> >>>>>>> Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
> >>>>>>>   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> >>>>>>> Email     captjt@mi*.co*
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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>get
> >>>>> in
> >>>> the
> >>>>> water"
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> >>>>>   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
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> >>>>>
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