All the 6 scooters but 2 have already been resold, I got Cobbs and it was 
the only one that worked right from the start. If I need anything I'm sure 
Rodney can get it for me with all the BS that comes with it.

At 06:46 AM 8/2/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:
>JT, if you or your boys don't like the scooters, I will take them back and
>give you your money back. If you need something , call me or write like
>anyone else and get it like anyone else.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:05 PM
>To: George Irvine; George Irvine
>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com; vbtech@ci*.co*
>Subject: RE: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
>
>
>They already tried that with you, I don't mind going public with anything.
>Remember the reed switch, you pounded that guy in private and I finally
>told him to tell you to send a new switch and pay for it, the dam thing
>never worked right from the minute he got the scooter. Then you told him
>you probably broke it building the scooter. Then one of the guys got one
>that ran backwards. Below is the post I made on VBtech about the scootors,
>this is when first noticed the reedswitch problem. The clutch problem I
>looked at last night, once it slips it isn't anymore good looks like as the
>plastic just smooths over. It is a design problem, nothing you did this
>time.
>
>At 07:49 PM 2/18/02 -0500, JT wrote:
>Hi everyone
>Short trip report on this past weekends gavin scooter test . Dave Widen ,
>Tom Sawicki, and myself headed for lake Rawlings on Sunday to test 3 gavin
>scooters. Dave and Tom had their own scooters they had just purchased and I
>was using Cobbs. None had been used by us in the water yet and only Cobbs
>had been test run by George on a dive.
>
>We arrived at the lake after a bit of delay and soon geared up for the
>dive. We all chose to dive streamed lined (no stages or lights) to
>concentrate on the scooter itself. The water was 49 degrees and I felt very
>comfortable in it.
>
>We all entered the water and I asked if everyone was ready and they said
>yes. I submerged and scootered about 40ft and looked back to find no one
>there. I waited about 3 minutes and Tom came out, I asked where Dave was
>and he did a funny motion to the scooter, we surfaced because I could not
>understand what he was saying.
>
>If seems as we all submerged to go, Tom and I were the only ones headed to
>the center of the lake. Dave on the other hand soon found he was being
>pushed back to the parking lot, his scooter was running backwards.
>
>Tom and I did a short run of 10 minures to come back and get Dave. Dave had
>taken his scooter apart to find the wires had been crossed in the engine
>compartment, he crossed the wires at the plug and was ready to go, the
>scooter had cut a 1/4 of inch off his nose when it backed into his face and
>I thought I heard him mumble something about calling Alton Hall just before
>he went underwater. ;-)) (joking a bit here)
>
>We did a complete lap and a half around the lake in 36 minutes, we were
>really moving. Things we found out.
>
>Tom's reedswitch sticks and needs to be turned, much like Todds was.
>
>Dave and Cobb's are about the same speed, Tom's is faster.
>The scooters need about 1.5 lbs to be neutral in FW.
>The weight must be placed perfect to get it balanced for the handle to ride
>up right.
>The motors have so much torque that the handle wants to rotate to the left,
>this requires you to use a lot of wrist and arm muscle to keep the trigger
>and handle up right.
>If the tow rope is not perfect the scooter pulls up or down, never even.
>Over all I was pleased with the scooters, much of the things are easily
>corrected and operator error.
>Several of these things will be adjusted this week and we plan to return to
>lake Rawlings this Saturday with a large group for training and testing. We
>will have several "kinds" of scooters for testing and playing, this is
>where you test new gear, not on an ocean dive that is a real deal and cost
>a lot. Contact Dave Widen he is the coordinator for the dive.
>Hope to see you guys there.
>JT
>
>
>
>     At 06:41 AM 8/1/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:
>
> >Try calling me and asking . Everyone and anyone else on your team or
> >anywhere else who has one merely emails me or calls me if they need
> >something, and they get it immediately. You  are too "proud" to call and
>ask
> >me, like I told you to do in the fist place.
> >
> >Now you can this to your list of "confessions". You need a priest and a set
> >of Rosary beads, not Techdiver.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:24 PM
> >To: George Irvine
> >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com; vbtech@ci*.co*
> >Subject: Re: Cut to the chaseRE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> >
> >
> >George, make any suggestion you want, it matters not to me. But you can
> >help us up here. We are having some problems with your scooters and the
> >guys are a bit reluctant about asking you how to fix them. 2 of them the
> >clutch is slipping and the trigger keeps coming off of one. Any suggestions
> >on the clutch problem, the scooters are unusable at this time.
> >
> >
> >
> >    At 09:21 PM 7/30/02 -0400, George Irvine wrote:
> > >JT, let's cut to the chase here: everytime I make a suggestion , you want
> > >to fight about it while ignoring the suggestion. If anyone else makes the
> > >same suggestion, you want to "challenge" them to a dive.  Just ague the
> > >suggestion, not what you think I do or did or what anyone else does .
> > >
> > >Everytime there is a real idiot, like the guy on the Seeker who wants to
>do
> > >battle with me or my friends, you want to defend them. If you want to
>keep
> > >doing that, take it off line. You can express your paranoia and your
> > >concern about my "agenda" without wasting everyone else's time.
> > >
> > >You are so upset that people listen to me, and you are especially
>concerned
> > >if they buy some piece of gear that I use. Why don't you take over for me
> > >and show everyone what the good stuff is? ( I can answer why you do not
>and
> > >why nobody listens to you - you don't have any and you don't know). But
>you
> > >can stay all upset about it. Most of the jerks who want to fight with me
> >all
> > >the time have the same beef, only no better answers.
> > >
> > >You get on here year after year with stories of deaths , accidents and
> > >clusterfucks with your latest "confession" ( like failing Fundamentals),
> > >and then go do the same things over and over and over again while
>expecting
> > >different results. Then you want to assume that everyone else has the
>same
> > >self-imposed problems, and go into paranoia mode about it.
> > >
> > >You need to worry about yourself. You are not qualified to worry about
> > >anyone else. By the way, your "tough guy" attitude about diving is Page
>One
> > >definition of a stroke.
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> > >Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 4:43 PM
> > >To: girvine@be*.ne*
> > >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com; vbtech@ci*.co*
> > >Subject: RE: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
> > >
> > >
> > >I see the truth really gets to you, blows your cover of doing everything
> > >right and by the book. I am the biggest thorn in your back because I just
> > >tell the truth, nothing more. I do not have to claim to dive in 28ft seas
> > >(funny how it was reduced to a mere 19ft at the next DIR class and then
> > >increased the deep dive of 475ft to the following) or do 575ft dives to
> > >impress the class, most students are of the new type and just eager to
>fit
> > >in with someone or group and believe anything. I've been around awhile
>and
> > >tend to check out the facts or just laugh at the obvious.
> >
> >
> >"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the
> >water"
> >Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
> >   Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
> >Email     captjt@mi*.co*
> >
> >
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>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the
>water"
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>Email     captjt@mi*.co*
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