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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 09:28:42 -0400
Subject: Re: VBTech vs. Nova Tech
Cc: "techdiver@aquanaut.com" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
To: Christian Gerzner <christiang@in*.co*.au*>
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
Guess what Christian, ALL dive boats I've ever been on other than the ML 
avoid this deployment issue by having no chase boat at all. Of course they 
all have a liferaft of some sort, but a chase boat is not standard 
equipment, as near as I can tell. The ML has a self deploying liferaft with 
  EIPRB for use when the ocean is in a "take no prisoners" mood.

And if your rule is not to get on a diveboat without a chase boat you have 
pretty much removed yourself from boat diving, at lease on the east coast 
of the US. To come up with a rule that if you have a chase boat it must be 
deployable within X number of minutes is stupid. If the dive calls for it 
(and the boat has one) you could have a chase boat that takes and hour to 
launch and get the motor running. You just do this prior to getting in the 
water.

This leads back to the basic question: What do you require to be on your 
diveboat before you go out on it? George knows this situation with 
chaseboats and his solution, which costs the dive operations nothing but 
some fuel and inconvinence, is to not anchor to a wreck during a dive. 
Problem solved. No chaseboat needed, no deployment issues.

Jim

On Saturday, July 27, 2002, at 06:59 AM, Christian Gerzner wrote:

> Jim,
>
> As usual the argument is getting into the "what if" category.
>
> I restate:
>
> If there is a deployable supplementary (for want of a better word)
> boat aboard, why then:
>
> 1) It must be instantly deployable, within, at a maximum, five minutes
> from go to whoa (some ten years ago on the Great Barrier Reef the duck
> sitting on the top deck of the Coralita went to "go" in the water in
> less than two minutes and it wasn't even our emergency). It was a two
> man operation and one of them was in the duck. We were at the end of
> our 14 day charter and I never saw anyone approach that duck during
> those days. But it was READY!
> 2) It must be fully gassed.
> 3) It must be, to the best of everyone's ability, able to run
> IMMEDIATELY, first time, every time. I do acknowledge that this is not
> possible every time, given the vagaries of engineering.
>
> ANYTHING LESS AND THE THING IS A LIABILITY (you know I much dislike 
> shouting):
>
> *******because it takes precious resources away from immediate 
> alternatives*******
>
> That's it, simple as that. If that doesn't make sense to the skipper
> of the ML (in this instance), why, should he be a skipper? Hmmmm?
>
> The ML, as it is configured ATM is, my opinion only, a disgrace.
>
> NO dive boat, no boat for that matter, should have ANY system which
> is potentially inoperable. Period.
>
> The sea takes no prisoners.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Christian
>
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