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From: PAlexakos@ao*.co*
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:58:27 EDT
Subject: GUE
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com

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>On Friday, July 12, 2002, at 10:51 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:
>
>>After the last several years of bashing every training
>>agency from PADI to the Mickey Mouse Club you guys are
>>hysterical.  First you get Mr. DIR and the rest of the
>>"Seven Dwarfs" to slander, insult, misrepresent
>>everyone not in "YOUR CLIC" and now when you start to
>>get some of your own medicine back, you whine.
>>
>>Gee was it just a coincidence that the IANTD, TDI
>>bashing campaign began just prior to he launch of the
>>vaunted GUE agency?  You weren't trying to make them
>>look bad just to propagandize the morons on this list
>>into believing GUE was the best?
>>
>>What's really funny is how you get a scumbag, ambulance
>>chasing lawyer to crawl out from under his rock and
>>threaten people every time you get some flack.
>>
>>Your goal of making diving safer and more enjoyable is
>>laudible, but your methods are a disgrace.  You have
>>failed miserably get your message across and shot
>>yourself in the foot by turning so many people off.  As
>>GUE expands it will experience the same problems as the
>>other agencies with instructors taking short cuts to
>>make a buck.
>>
>>I'm glad you have insurance, so when the inevitable
>>happens you'll have representation when
>>"dive lawyer" calls.

Dear Mr. Curtis,

I applaud your familiarity with Walt Disney. Mine is poor, so your colorful 
rhetoric is lost on me.  Anyhow, the analogy you seek to establish between 
Mr. Crowley and your thinly veiled reference to Mr. Irvine is a poor one, not 
only because Mr. Irvine is not an officer of this organization, but because 
in the case of Mr. Crowley, there is ample evidence that he, in fact, 
knowingly misrepresented the facts.  In the case of Mr. Irvine, perhaps the 
organizations he criticized did not feel that they recourse against him for 
the claims that he made. 

For the record, GUE's "methods" do not include slander, insults, or lies; our 
 "whining" is merely a request for accurate representation. In our opinion, 
the intentional distortion of the truth, designed to harm another, falls 
outside the domain of free speech, forcing us to take measures to curtail 
them.

Sincerely yours,


Dr. Panos D. Alexakos
Vice-President and Director of Quality Control
Global Underwater Explorers

GUE (www.gue.com) is a non-profit organization committed to education, 
research, and exploration with thousands of dedicated members worldwide.

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
FACE="Arial" LANG="0">>On Friday, July 12, 2002, at 10:51 AM, Jim Curtis
wrote:<BR>
><BR>
>>After the last several years of bashing every training<BR>
>>agency from PADI to the Mickey Mouse Club you guys are<BR>
>>hysterical.  First you get Mr. DIR and the rest of the<BR>
>>"Seven Dwarfs" to slander, insult, misrepresent<BR>
>>everyone not in "YOUR CLIC" and now when you start to<BR>
>>get some of your own medicine back, you whine.<BR>
>><BR>
>>Gee was it just a coincidence that the IANTD, TDI<BR>
>>bashing campaign began just prior to he launch of the<BR>
>>vaunted GUE agency?  You weren't trying to make them<BR>
>>look bad just to propagandize the morons on this list<BR>
>>into believing GUE was the best?<BR>
>><BR>
>>What's really funny is how you get a scumbag, ambulance<BR>
>>chasing lawyer to crawl out from under his rock and<BR>
>>threaten people every time you get some flack.<BR>
>><BR>
>>Your goal of making diving safer and more enjoyable is<BR>
>>laudible, but your methods are a disgrace.  You have<BR>
>>failed miserably get your message across and shot<BR>
>>yourself in the foot by turning so many people off.  As<BR>
>>GUE expands it will experience the same problems as the<BR>
>>other agencies with instructors taking short cuts to<BR>
>>make a buck.<BR>
>><BR>
>>I'm glad you have insurance, so when the inevitable<BR>
>>happens you'll have representation when<BR>
>>"dive lawyer" calls.<BR>
<BR>
Dear Mr. Curtis,<BR>
<BR>
I applaud your familiarity with Walt Disney. Mine is poor, so your colorful
rhetoric is lost on me.  Anyhow, the analogy you seek to establish between
Mr. Crowley and your thinly veiled reference to Mr. Irvine is a poor one, not
only because Mr. Irvine is not an officer of this organization, but because in
the case of Mr. Crowley, there is ample evidence that he, in fact, knowingly
misrepresented the facts.  In the case of Mr. Irvine, perhaps the
organizations he criticized did not feel that they recourse against him for the
claims that he made. <BR>
<BR>
For the record, GUE's "methods" do not include slander, insults, or lies;
our  "whining" is merely a request for accurate representation. In our
opinion, the intentional distortion of the truth, designed to harm another,
falls outside the domain of free speech, forcing us to take measures to curtail
them.<BR>
<BR>
Sincerely yours,<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Dr. Panos D. Alexakos<BR>
Vice-President and Director of Quality Control<BR>
Global Underwater Explorers<BR>
<BR>
GUE (www.gue.com) is a non-profit organization committed to education,
research, and exploration with thousands of dedicated members worldwide.<BR>
</FONT></HTML>
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