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From: wgrogan@dc*.ne*
To: Robert Wood <rwood@sp*.co*>, "'wgrogan@dc*.ne*'" <wgrogan@dc*.ne*>,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com, dirne@ya*.co*
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:25:13 est
Subject: RE: New Regulations for diving in Quebec
Robert,
Read your translation, thanks!  It was very helpful, but I didn't find the link
on the website, but rather via a Google search.  The English language page
doesn't
have much on it, and/or the links are down.
Wendell
>
>	Just for information purposes, the ST. Lawrence River diving
>	that is so good lies between Kingston, ONTARIO, and Cornwall, 
>	ONTARIO. NOT Quebec so all is safe.
>
>	More problematic, because my idiot government did not want to 
>	join in a continental security perimeter with the US, is access 
>	to the wrecks on the American side of the river.
>
>	As Canadians, we now have to check in with the US coast guard to
>	go dive wrecks just a stone's throw from the embarkation point.
>
>	More information can be had on the Quebec diving regulations at
>	http://www.fqas.qc.ca where you will find a pdf in French of the
>	actual regualtion and a translation by yours truly  of a text 
>	explaining the reguylations. Note, this text wqas written before 
>	the coming into foirce of the regualtiosn and may be slighlty 
>	different. An e-mail to the above organization will help.
>
>	In the final analysis, there are no scuba police to arrest you
>	foir an excess of depth (or speed of ascent :^)
>
>[\]Robert Wood
>The St. Lawrence River - fresh, warm, visible diving.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: wgrogan@dc*.ne* [mailto:wgrogan@dc*.ne*] 
>Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 12:54 PM
>To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Cc: dirne@ya*.co*
>Subject: New Regulations for diving in Quebec
>
>
>Just got this from the Canadian techdiver group.  Looks bad.  I am still
>stumbling through the regulations, all in French, of course, but to dive in

>Quebec (ie. St. Lawrence River/seaway) you will have to buy a certificate
>from the Quebec diver group.  No mention of any testing allowable in English

>(or any other civilized language). Wendell
>
>>To PADI's Québec Members
>>
>>A legislative framework to regulate recreational diving in Québec,
>first 
>>conceived some five years ago, has now come into effect.
>>
>>The new rules state that, beginning April 1, 2002, in addition to
>whatever 
>>certifications they may hold from recognized dive training agencies,
>all 
>>recreational divers in Québec, including technical divers, must obtai n
>a 
>>certificate issued under the authority of the Fédération québéc oise 
>>des
>
>>activités subaquatiques (FQAS) certifying the level for which they ar e
>>qualified to dive.  In addition, they will be prohibited from maki ng
>dives 
>>beyond that level.  Similarly, anyone providing dive instruction i n
>Québec 
>>must obtain a certificate issued under the authority of the FQAS
>certifying 
>>the level for which they are qualified to give instruction and they
>will be 
>>prohibited from giving instruction at a higher level.  These basic
>legal 
>>restrictions, found in the Québec Act Respecting Safety in Sports, (L 
>>oi
>sur 
>>la sécurité dans les sports) will be implemented through the
>>government-approved By-law respecting qualifications for recreational < BR>

>>underwater diving (Règlement sur la qualification en plongée
>subaquatique 
>>récréative), which also became effective on April 1, 2002.  Th e new
>rules 
>>also apply, although with some differences, to divers and instructors < 
>>BR> qualified outside Québec who wish to carry on their dive activities 
>>i n Québec.
>>
>>Before these rules were finalized, PADI became actively involved in
>>sustained, direct efforts to persuade the Québec government that the 
>>objective of safety in recreational diving, which PADI has embraced
>since 
>>its beginnings, could best be promoted by relying as much as possible 
>>on
>>existing structures and certification procedures of PADI and other 
>>reputable, internationally recognized training agencies, which have
>been 
>>validated by decades of experience.  In a formal brief submitted t o 
>>the
>
>>government two years ago, PADI thoroughly reviewed the issues and made< 
>>BR>
>a 
>>number of specific recommendations both on administrative and
>substantive 
>>levels regarding the then-proposed new rules.  Before the final
>adoption of 
>>the By-law, PADI presented what it considered to be convincing
>arguments to 
>>the government's representatives and believed that the government was < 
>>BR> favourably disposed to many of PADI's views.  In the result, PADI< 
>>BR> regrets
>
>>that the Québec government did not accept its views to a greater
>extent.
>>
>>The new rules are the culmination of a process that began more than
>five 
>>years ago with recommendations made by Québec coroner Denis Boudrias in
>a 
>>series of reports on dive fatalities in Quebec.  In 1997, provisio ns
>>relating to recreational dive safety were added to the Act Respecting < BR>

>>Safety in Sports (Loi sur la sécurité dans les sports).  The e ffect of
>the 
>>new provisions was suspended, however, until a government-approved
>by-law 
>>could be adopted which would provide for the determination of levels of
>
>>qualification for divers and instructors, the content of qualifying
>>examinations and the issuance of certificates resulting from such 
>>examinations.  All of these matters were to be the responsibility of a 
>>government-designated non-profit organization established for the
>purpose 
>>of ensuring the safety of divers.  In 1999, the Québec governmen t
>>designated the FQAS to be the organization responsible for implementing 
>
>>this new system of regulation.  Subsequently, in March 2000, after
>>consultations between the government and the FQAS, a draft by-law was < BR>

>>published for comment by interested parties.
>>
>>At that time, PADI hired well-known Montreal law firm Heenan Blaikie
>and 
>>its counsel, former Québec prime minister and justice minister, Pierr e
>Marc 
>>Johnson, to assist PADI in preparing a brief to the Québec government
>>commenting on the draft by-law.  PADI invested considerable time a nd
>effort 
>>in preparing its comments and made a substantial number of
>recommendations 
>>in its brief regarding changes to the draft by-law.  A complete co py 
>>of
>
>>PADI's brief may be found on the PADI member Web site.
>>http://www.padimembers.com/cgi-bin/reqpg.exe?ALUM/CAN//+/canad a/news/Qu
>ebecRegulations/default 
>>  Following the submission of PADI's brief in May 2000, PADI and i ts
>>representatives were able to speak with all the key Québec government 
>>representatives involved in the file, including the ministers
>responsible 
>>for the legislation.  Although the government did not accept all o f 
>>the
>
>>recommendations made by PADI, the final changes to the By-law did give
>>effect to some of the points raised by PADI.
>>
>>At this time, the government has assured PADI that the implementation 
>>of
>>the new rules will be followed closely and that the government will be< BR>

>open 
>>to making readjustments dictated by experience. Accordingly, we would < 
>>BR> strongly urge our members to relay to PADI any information they may
>have 
>>regarding their experience with the new rules so that we may be in the< 
>>BR>
>best 
>>position to make further comments to the Québec government at the
>>appropriate time.
>>
>>At present, PADI does not have information regarding details of the
>>procedures which the FQAS intends to follow to implement the new rules. 
>
>>PADI, accordingly, refers its members to the FQAS for further
>information 
>>in this connection.    The FQAS can be reached at 4545, ave Pierre-De 
>>Coubertin, C.P. 1000, Succursale M, Montréal, Québec; Telephone: (5 14)
>>252-3009; Fax: (514) 254-1363; e-mail (courriel): plongee@fq*.qc*.ca* ; 
>>Internet: http://www.fqas.qc.ca . 
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