David, There are two reasons to wash the thinsulate underwaer:1) it has achieved that funky locker room smell to the point no one wants to dive with you, 2)the thinsulate has absorbed dirt and/or body oils and has lost some of it's capacity to insulate. The first scenario is more common and easier to fix. Just wash it in a front loading washer with a little chlorine bleach. DUI will warn you that bleach will discolor the thinsulate, it will- big deal. Cycle through the washer once more with no bleach. For dirt and oils you need to wash with a detergent then run through 2-3 more cycles without detergent to get the hydrophobic properties back. You can extend the time between washings by layering something between you and the thinsulate for relatively warm/short dives. Anytime you're on a dive where a leaky or flooded drysuit would be a critical issue you want only the thinsulate against your skin- no layering. Between dives, store the suit inside out on a hanger. When you put it on, be careful not to let the thinsulate bunch around your wrists and ankles. This isn't good for fit or insulation and it restricts movement. C. Chris Elmore 34°02'24"N, 80°58'55"W (803) 348-3055 mobile ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <reinhard@oc*.co*.au*> To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:09 AM Subject: RE: Drysuit management and weighting, let's try this again > Thanks George, and all the others who have emailed me both on and off the > list. This sort of advice is a very handy way of being sure I don't blow my > money on the wrong gear. But, now I am curious as to what the maintenance > issues are with the C-4, and what happens to it if you do it wrong. > Dave. > > > > At 06:40 AM 15/05/2002 -0400, trey wrote: > >I guess they call it "four gram" in stead of C-4. Obviously, DUI C-4 four is > >very expensive in any currency, and that is why we see so many bullshit > >undergarment recommendations. C-4 is also very difficult to maintain > >properly, so most people screw it up and then the bullshit stuff feels good > >to them by way of comparison. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David [mailto:reinhard@oc*.co*.au*] > >Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:50 AM > >To: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >Subject: RE: Drysuit management and weighting, let's try this again > > > > > >Thanks George, C-4 sounds like the way to go. But I couldn't find it on the > >DUI website...do they have another name for it? > >I have also been advised that it sells at around $800 dollars in Australia > >so I may have to improvise for a little longer! (And as usual I will tell > >my wife that it only cost $200 dollars!) > > > >Dave > > > >At 08:48 AM 12/05/2002 -0400, George Irvine wrote: > > >C-4 thinsulate - the good kind used by DUI ( intended to be compressed) , > > >not the bullshit used by others and sold cheaper. The real thing is all you > > >need under your suit, and it works flooded while not changing your > >buoyancy. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: David [mailto:reinhard@oc*.co*.au*] > > >Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 6:20 PM > > >To: techdiver@aquanaut.com > > >Subject: Re: Drysuit management and weighting, let's try this again > > > > > > > > >While we are on the topic of drysuits I have a question: > > > > > >I have been improvising my undergarments by using thermals more appropriate > > >for camping than diving. I realise now that this is not such a good idea. I > > >suspect I may be carrying excessive weight since I have to compensate for > > >the lack of warmth from the garments by adding more air. What sort of > > >undergarment who be suitable for dives in 10degC (around 50degF) water with > > >exposure times of around one hour? > > > > > >(If there happen to be any Aussie divers that can comment about products > > >available here in Australia that would be helpful - I'm basically talking > > >about Melbourne dives in mid-winter) > > > > > >Thanks, Dave > > > > > >-- > > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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