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From: "Ted Green" <scuba@md*.co*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 13:32:01 -0400
Subject: The final points.
CC: <trey@ne*.co*>


To all, 

     The final points.  


1. An instructor needs to evaluate the students basic skill levels  
and correct deficiencies before attempting to teach new material. 
As was demonstrated by this class, a student's basic skills are not 
always what the're advertised to be. 


2. Handicapping student's equipment, harassment techniques,  
and 3 man buddy teams have no place on dive #1 ( if you must do  
them at all )  because of point #1. If you have no first hand  
experience with a particular diver in the water, why would you put  
them in a more difficult or dangerous situation if you don't know  
whether they are prepared to handle it. 


3. Three man teams, while certainly doable in some / most diving  
situation, are more difficult than two man teams until your team  
gets good at it. This is a skill that needs to be learned with above  
water instruction and underwater practice. Just as with a reel, you  
don't tell your students,"here it is, jump in the water and give it a  
shot". If you disagree with this then explain why in the recreational  
diving world a disproportionately high number of 3 buddy teams fail  
( one diver gets separated from the other two). Answer: they were  
never trained as a team to do it properly, and they lack the 
discipline to make it work. Learning the three man buddy team is 
not something you should be doing while fighting your shrink 
wrapped drysuit and doing gas shut down drills. Which brings me 
to point #4.


4. I really have to question how smart it is to cram all this stuff into 
a weekend dive course with 10  students and 1 instructor. With a 
90% failure rate........ or should I  say 90% still in training, this 
doesn't speak well for a dir  fundamentals course. You may be 
surprised to find that I <bold>don't</bold> hold this against Andrew. The
last 
course I took was a rebreather  course from Errol Kalayci ( a gue 
instructor ) in 1998. My out of  pocket for the week, travel, 
accommodations, meals, training, and diving was over $2,000. I 
think the tuition alone was over $900. Three of us spent 5 intense 
days learning and diving the Halcyon rebreather. This is  the way to 
learn Technical diving! It infuriates me that people are willing to 
spend  thousands / tens of thousands of dollars on dive gear and 
diving and yet think they are accomplishing something by being in 
a class of  10 spending $300 each, for a weekend and think they 
are going to learn this stuff. 


For the last few days I have been reading e-mails from the  
participants of this class who failed. Almost all hold Andrew in high 
regard and think he is a great instructor. Several told of how  
Andrew made them realize they were an accident waiting to  
happen. To them I respond, 


<bold>WHY HAS NOT ONE OF YOU LOOSERS SAID," I'M GOING TO 
GO  SPEND A COUPLE OF THOUSAND  DOLLARS, A WEEK 
WITH ANDREW, AND LEARN TO DO IT RIGHT SO I DON'T 
KILL  MYSELF."


</bold>5. To those of you who have invited to come to a weekend dir  
fundementals course for $275 with 9 other people, I say," forget it! If 
I ever take this course I'll pack my bags grab a fist full of  hundred 
dollar bills, head to Florida for at least a week, pay for  private 
instruction or not more than 4 students to one instructor and  DO IT 
RIGHT." The best way to learn technical diving is to take the 
course and then spend 4 or five days straight doing it. When it 
comes to time with the instructor, I won't settle for 10%. I want all 
of it, or at least 25% over several days. It's sad when a "stroke" like 
me takes his diving instruction far more seriously than you "dir 
wanna bees".


I'm out of here for a few days, so no more e-mails for a while. If you 
want to argue the points, e-mail George. I'm pretty sure he will 
agree with me on most of this.





<nofill>
Ted Green
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Dive Charter Boat: O.C. Diver
                   Sunset Marina in Ocean City, Maryland
                   http://www.ocdiver.com
                   410.742.1992  800.637.2102
                   Fax 410.749.9410
"Diving the Atlantic coast from Cape May NJ to Cape Charles VA."
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