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Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 09:03:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: dmdalton <dmdalton2000@ya*.co*>
Subject: Re: Dir fundamentals - What's the point of this drill?
To: scuba@md*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Cc: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
1) Jim did not say "This is bull shit and walk away. 
If you bothered to read his comments, or JT's for that
matter you would realize this.

2) You are right. You are missing something and I
don't think, given your comments you will ever
understand the point of what Andrew was demonstrating.

I suggest you sign up for the course.

Dave Dalton


--- Ted Green <scuba@md*.co*> wrote:
> 
> From:           	Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
> Subject:        	Dir fundamentals instructor beats
> up student for DIW part 2
> 
> > BTW, I forgot to mention we were not allowed to
> hook up our DS
> > inflators, the squeeze made reaching your valves
> much harder. 
> 
> Maybe I'm missing something here. The only time I
> have had the 
> "shrink wrap effect" was on a descent when the dry
> suit inflator 
> hose came off. No problem, reconnect drysuit
> inflator hose or 
> inflate wing and return to surface. If you have a
> regulator or power 
> inflator failure which prevents buoyancy control,
> ditch weight and 
> return to the surface. "Shrink wrap effect" is a
> shallow water 
> problem where the greatest volume change occurs,
> usually the first 
> 33'. If your not putting gas in your drysuit until
> you hit the bottom, 
> you have a skill problem, or you don't understand
> how to operate a 
> dry suit properly, or you just like the sensation of
> your testicles 
> being squeezed. To me, valve shut down drills while
> shrink wrapped 
> would be pointless.
> 
> JT maybe you should take Andrew to one of the 40
> degree quarries 
> let him enter the water with his drysuit zipper open
> and let him 
> demonstrate gas shut down drills, buoyancy skills,
> and deco stops 
> with a flooded drysuit. Having to complete a dive
> with a flooded 
> drysuit in cold water is probably a thousand times
> more likely than 
> than his exercise.
> 
> While I'm not a member of the Jim Cobb fan club, I
> tip my hat and 
> congratulate him as being the only one willing to
> say, "this is 
> bullshit!" and walk away.
> 
> Ted
> 
> 
> Ted Green
>
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