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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: "Matthias Voss" <mat.voss@t-*.de*>, <trey@ne*.co*>
Cc: "Allyson" <allysonclagett@ea*.ne*>,
     "'Techdiver List \(E-mail\)'"
Subject: RE: April 13, 2002; George Irvine's Presentation to Nova Tech Divers
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 06:53:15 -0400

Wreck diving is the worst for entanglement due to the fishing lines, wires,
the rest of the debris and the current which can pin you helplessly to an
object. Everything needs to be cutaway or removable, leaving only the tank
valve as a blind spot. For that you have the shears and knife to cut loose,
and hopefully the buddy to help you. However, we don't create unnecessary
hazards nor do we put gear where it can impede any other gear ( ie, nothing
on the backplate at all). Little things need to be in pockets. Reels
especially need to be where they will not kill you, as in not ever on your
ass in a wreck dive.

You need to see somebody caught on a wreck in the Gulfstream current to
appreciate how important this is. Otherwise, the mindset of keeping a clean,
unobstructed rig is your first indication that somebody has their shit
together , at least in their head.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthias Voss [mailto:mat.voss@t-*.de*]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:22 AM
To: trey@ne*.co*
Cc: Allyson; 'Techdiver List (E-mail)'
Subject: Re: April 13, 2002; George Irvine's Presentation to Nova Tech
Divers


Well it works. Easy to stuff it while sitting donning the rig.
May be there is still room for improvement.
Now, how do I get the sand out of my hair?
Matthias

George Irvine schrieb:
>
> Mathias, take your head out of the sand and go try it. I am so sick of
> idiots telling me I don't know what I am doing. When you get as many dives
> on wrecks as I have, I will kiss your stupid ass in Macy's window.
>
> If any of you morons had any reasonable way of doing anything, nobody
would
> be asking me, now would they ?
>
> If you can not reach around to put a lift bag under your tanks, how the
fuck
> do you wipe your ass? If you can not wipe your ass, then don't dive, but
> don't tell me that I am all fucked up because you are a mutant. DIR is not
> for mutants, and neither is diving for that matter.
>
> I don't have solutions for people who should not be diving - go to IANTD
or
> TDI for that and book a trip on the Seeker.

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