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OK, Brian, where do you want to start? First of all, your bright light
argument is crap - we use all HID in the WKPP. We do not mix dive lights,
since obviously this makes buddy tracking and communication difficult if not
impossible. I have no interest in your personal preference for dive lights -
I know better. The backscatter is usually a lack of focus which is what you
get with MRI heads - as well as inability to signal, but the people who use
them don't know what the term"buddy" means in the first place and don't have
a clue what a real light should look like in the water. We do.

The MLS is a disaster. The canister is a total wetdream. It needs a special
tool to open it and has captured o-rings. Only a moron would not understand
the problem there. For one thing, we use a surface o-ring only so that
should the light explode, the ring will blow out. Should the light offgas
and not explode, the ring will blow out upon surfacing and relieve the
problem in a properly designed light. The captured o-ring is a nightmare to
position properly and seal, and there is no way to view it from the outside
to see if it is seated  properly - another case of moronity in action and
evidence of not have the foggiest idea of what this game is all about.

The canister does not have adjustable positioning of the retainer, which
means it can only be put in one position. It has a molded in loop, which is
a weak point.

The light has continuous connection by screwing in the lid, which means that
it can arc when being opened, a risk for explosion - another dumb ass piece
of know-nothing buffoonery.

The whole thing is a crappy design that has been convoluted and accommodated
with every kind of nonsense in a total afterthought to try to make it work,
and it does not hold a candle to the real thing that is available out there.

Brian, just because you chose to act first and ask the pros later does no
make this choice of yours any better - it merely makes my point - you don't
know any better and whoever sold this to you does not know any better, just
like whoever created this joke does not know any better. You got screwed.
Don't [pass the screwing on to somebody else.

I did not realize you copied this to techdiver. I thought it was just on
Quest, and that is why I made the comment that nobody on this list ( the
Quest list, a DIR list, not a stroke list) is stupid enough to buy something
like that and that is why I made the "we don't f**k our friends" comment.
Obviously there are more than enough idiots on the techdiver  list who are
candidates for this light, but as I said, the right thing to do is admit
your mistake and send it to the circular file so you can sleep at night.

Do not advertise crap on the Quest list, and ignorance is no excuse.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Hunter [mailto:longhorne@pr*.ne*]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:48 PM
> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com; quest@gu*.co*; trey@ne*.co*
> Subject: Re: dive rite light
>
>
> George,
> Ya know I agree with you on just about everything but I'm going
> to call you on this one. What is wrong with this light I have
> used it for a year and have had no problems with it, it gets the
> job done just fine. I have dove with people in the great lake
> that have bigger and brighter lights and they can't see any more
> than me, brighter lights cause to much backscatter. I don't EVER
> try to fuck someone on a trade or sale I'm as honest as I can be.
> I have always said "If you're going to ask me a question and
> don't think you'll like the answer don't ask the question. So if
> this is such a bad light tell me why don't just yell scream and
> curse, tell me why.
>  Thank you
> Brian Hunter
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: George Irvine
>   To: Brian Hunter ; techdiver@aquanaut.com ; quest@gu*.co*
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 5:46 AM
>   Subject: RE: dive rite light
>
>
>   I have a trashbag full of dogshit , about a year old - 150
> bucks, or will trade for an MLS light - buyer pays shipping.
> Nobody on this list is that f**king stupid , Brian, get somebody
> to put this on the IANTD list. We don't try to f**k our
> friends.The right thing to do is to throw this piece of shit in
> the trash and write it off to you have been suckered by some
> complete moron, and to be sure you tell everyone you know that
> this is the case, not to try to sell it to somebody else and have
> them suffer the same fate.
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Brian Hunter [mailto:longhorne@pr*.ne*]
>     Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:05 AM
>     To: techdiver@aquanaut.com; quest@gu*.co*
>     Subject: dive rite light
>
>
>     I have a dive rite mls 1 light with mr 11 head battery, and
> charger for sale $150.00 1 year old. Buyer pays shipping from Chicago IL.
>
>     Brian Hunter
>     longhorne@pr*.ne*
>     847-689-2290
>





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<DIV><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>OK, Brian, where do you want to =
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of all, your bright light argument is crap - we use all HID in the WKPP. =
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difficult if not impossible. I have no interest in your personal =
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dive lights - I know better. The backscatter is usually a lack of focus =
which is=20
what you get with MRI heads - as well as inability to signal, but the =
people who=20
use them don't know what the term"buddy" means in the first place and =
don't have=20
a clue what a real light should look like in the water. We do.</FONT>=20
<BR><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>The MLS is a disaster. The =
canister is a=20
total wetdream. It needs a special tool to open it and has captured =
o-rings.=20
Only a moron would not understand the problem there. For one thing, we =
use a=20
surface o-ring only so that should the light explode, the ring will blow =
out.=20
Should the light offgas and not explode, the ring will blow out upon =
surfacing=20
and relieve the problem in a properly designed light. The captured =
o-ring is a=20
nightmare to position properly and seal, and there is no way to view it =
from the=20
outside to see if it is seated  properly - another case of moronity =
in=20
action and evidence of not have the foggiest idea of what this game is =
all=20
about.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>The canister
does =
not have=20
adjustable positioning of the retainer, which means it can only be put =
in one=20
position. It has a molded in loop, which is a weak point.</FONT> =
<BR><BR><FONT=20
face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>The light has continuous connection by =
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another dumb ass piece of know-nothing buffoonery.
</FONT><BR><BR><FONT=20
face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>The whole thing is a crappy design that has =
been=20
convoluted and accommodated with every kind of nonsense in a total =
afterthought=20
to try to make it work, and it does not hold a candle to the real thing =
that is=20
available out there. </FONT><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif =
size=3D2><BR>Brian, just=20
because you chose to act first and ask the pros later does no make this =
choice=20
of yours any better - it merely makes my point - you don't know any =
better and=20
whoever sold this to you does not know any better, just like whoever =
created=20
this joke does not know any better. You got screwed. Don't [pass the =
screwing on=20
to somebody else.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2>I
did =
not realize=20
you copied this to techdiver. I thought it was just on Quest, and that =
is why I=20
made the comment that nobody on this list ( the Quest list, a DIR list, =
not a=20
stroke list) is stupid enough to buy something like that and that is why =
I made=20
the "we don't f**k our friends" comment. Obviously there are more than =
enough=20
idiots on the techdiver  list who are candidates for this light, =
but as I=20
said, the right thing to do is admit your mistake and send it to the =
circular=20
file so you can sleep at night.</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=3Dsans-serif =
size=3D2>Do=20
not advertise crap on the Quest list, and ignorance is no excuse.=20
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-----Original=20
Message-----<BR>> From: Brian Hunter =
[mailto:longhorne@pr*.ne*]<BR>>=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:48 PM<BR>> To: =
techdiver@aquanaut.com;=20
quest@gu*.co*; trey@ne*.co*<BR>> Subject: Re: dive rite =
light<BR>>=20
<BR>> <BR>> George,<BR>> Ya know I agree with you on just
about =

everything but I'm going <BR>> to call you on this one. What is wrong =
with=20
this light I have <BR>> used it for a year and have had no problems =
with it,=20
it gets the <BR>> job done just fine. I have dove with people in the =
great=20
lake <BR>> that have bigger and brighter lights and they can't see =
any more=20
<BR>> than me, brighter lights cause to much backscatter. I don't =
EVER=20
<BR>> try to fuck someone on a trade or sale I'm as honest as I can =
be.=20
<BR>> I have always said "If you're going to ask me a question and =
<BR>>=20
don't think you'll like the answer don't ask the question. So if =
<BR>> this=20
is such a bad light tell me why don't just yell scream and <BR>> =
curse, tell=20
me why.<BR>>  Thank you<BR>> Brian Hunter<BR>>
<BR>> =
 =20
----- Original Message ----- <BR>>   From: George Irvine =
<BR>>  =20
To: Brian Hunter ; techdiver@aquanaut.com ; quest@gu*.co* <BR>> =
  Sent:=20
Tuesday, April 02, 2002 5:46 AM<BR>>   Subject: RE: dive rite=20
light<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>   I have a trashbag full of
dogshit =
, about=20
a year old - 150 <BR>> bucks, or will trade for an MLS light - buyer =
pays=20
shipping. <BR>> Nobody on this list is that f**king stupid , Brian, =
get=20
somebody <BR>> to put this on the IANTD list. We don't try to f**k =
our=20
<BR>> friends.The right thing to do is to throw this piece of shit in =

<BR>> the trash and write it off to you have been suckered by some =
<BR>>=20
complete moron, and to be sure you tell everyone you know that <BR>> =
this is=20
the case, not to try to sell it to somebody else and have <BR>> them =
suffer=20
the same fate.<BR>>     -----Original Message-----<BR>> =
 =20
  From: Brian Hunter [mailto:longhorne@pr*.ne*]<BR>>   =
 =20
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:05 AM<BR>>     To:=20
techdiver@aquanaut.com; quest@gu*.co*<BR>>     Subject: =
dive rite=20
light<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>     I have a dive rite mls 1
=
light=20
with mr 11 head battery, and <BR>> charger for sale $150.00 1 year =
old. Buyer=20
pays shipping from Chicago IL.<BR>> <BR>>     Brian =
Hunter=20
<BR>>     longhorne@pr*.ne*<BR>>    =20
847-689-2290<BR>>
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