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From: Robert Wood <rwood@sp*.co*>
To: "'CuteEve@ao*.co*'" <CuteEve@ao*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: RGBM GF or JF?
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:02:05 -0500

	Intersting, is this rounding error as I notice 
	the numbers only iverge by 1 minute at any one time.

[\]Robert Wood
The St. Lawrence River - fresh, warm, visible diving.

-----Original Message-----
From: CuteEve@ao*.co* [mailto:CuteEve@ao*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:35 PM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RGBM GF or JF?


I see so many questions, doubts, and comments on RGBM that I can't help 
putting a big grin on my face. Are we putting our lives on this so-proven 
model on mere faith?
One instructor showed me a scary comparison made, not against other models, 
but on itself. 
Has anyone else compared the deco at different depth, same time or same
depth 
different times? Well, this instructor did. On a mix 16/(20-40) % for a 20 
minute dive:
stop.......220 ft........200 ft
140 ft........1..............1
130...........1..............1
120...........1..............1
110...........1..............1
100...........2..............2
90............2...............2
80............2...............2
70............3...............4
60............4...............4
50............5...............6
40............7...............8
30...........10.............11    
20............5...............6
10...........10.............10
total........54.............59min
So similar deco profiles for both depths yield a longer deco for 200 ft than

for 220 ft!
Give me a break! 
I understand the "official" explanation for this difference was a higher 
degree of "conservatism" due to a higher hit frequency in the shallower 
depths......yeah, sure.
The model is perfect; it's the divers fault they get bent! 

How much higher a conservatism? Why does it happen again with 170 ft and 190

ft where a 15 minute dive gives a 33 minute deco for 170 ft while only 29 
minute deco on the deeper dive? More conservatism or a higher "Jeeezzzuz 
Factor" (JF)?

How do you adjust the JF to dive 170 ft for 15 minutes and do a total 33 
minute deco or rather dive it for 20 minutes because you only do 32 minutes 
deco? You mean a 5 minutes longer stay yields a shorter deco? Yep, it's
right 
there in the Naui book, Tables pp 3, 4 and 5. See for yourself before you 
trust a model with your body. I have seen the outcome.
Heck, I can develop my own deco model. I've got a dart board too!

BTW Christina, the impropriety of using a government e-mail address for 
promoting, selling or private purposes is dealt at a different level. Not 
only is improper and unethical, but illegal. I can e-mail you privately on 
that if interested. That goes for the private commercial use of government 
facilities. But I bet you that at this time, "he is laughing all the way to 
the bank".  What is a simple taxpayer supposed to do? 
QTV
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