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Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 08:44:58 +0200
From: "Manos Manoli" <cytech@ma*.co*.cy*>
To: mkapono@ne*.ne*, trey@ga*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: NOT SPAM! N2narc&myelin!EXAM_48hrs!
In a dry dive at depth of 40m just for the sake of it i tryed to cross  
within 10min all the "A"  from a 100 word
document. I finish at 4 minutes so i had plenty of time to check it 
again and again. At the 10m stop i couldnt
believe my eyes i scored  76% + i cross many other characters  , Fedros 
and another friend score below 60%

Playing litle games in the chamber is fun .

Manos Manoli.
www.smiley.cy.net/cytech

Subject:

RE: NOT SPAM! N2narc&myelin!EXAM_48hrs!
From:

"George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
Date:

Tue, 5 Mar 2002 06:10:59 -0500

To:

"Mark Kapono" <mkapono@ne*.ne*>, <trey@ga*.co*>, 
"Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>


Mark, I don't know the bits and pieces of narcosis mechanisms or how 
solubility in the sheaths surrounding the nerves that you mention here 
effects narcosis, nor do I have and data on response times. However, 
this stuff is readily available from organizations like UHMS, and there 
are other studies out there as well.

 

What I can tell you is that at any depth on nitrogen, there is 
impairment. I can tell you that Jarrod and I discovered that our team 
and ourselves were making mistakes when we "traveled" on deco gas. For 
instance, when we used nitrox in one cave system to travel a mile in 
water less than 150 feet deep and then go to helium for the drop to the 
300 foot stuff, we made all kinds of errors. Our teams placing stages 
and safeties made errors. You can look at the huge number of accidents 
among trained cave divers where nobody can tell you what happened. I can 
- they were in 100+ feet of water on air or nitrox.

 

Impairment really takes the fun out of diving and adds in an 
unacceptable element of risk. Only a farm animal would try to "teach" 
deep air diving or deep nitrox.

 

Then there is the issue of decompression from air - there is none that 
works. The damage created by nitrogen at elevated partial pressures can 
be "treated" with decompression, but not resolved. In this sense 
nitrogen creates an unnecessary impediment to a smooth execution.

 

If you run across anyone who thinks they are "good on air" or have some 
ability to dive deep on air, give that stroke a wide berth. You will 
always notice that anyone stupid enough to say that while standing on 
dry land at one ATA is clearly not going to get any smarter at depth.

 

 
From: Mark Kapono [mailto:mkapono@ne*.ne*]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:33 AM
To: Trey; trey@ga*.co*
Subject: NOT SPAM! N2narc&myelin!EXAM_48hrs!

    Dude!

     

    I have a MICRO 130 exam coming up in 48 hours.

     

    If you might give me your spin on N2 narcosis, soluble fats in
    myelin....slowed response...

     

    Greatly appreceiated, as I could cite Bookspan, I prefer citing
    field experienced personnel. Whatever you might offer...

     

    Mark Kapono



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