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Joe, let me tell you what could of happened. Follow this if you can.  The 
GD boat you used to do the dive has no experience in technical diving, they 
have only been in the business for 2 maybe 3 years. Now with the exception 
of a handful there are a bunch of fools in the group to dive with you. Just 
to fill the boat, now this boat may only have the word of one person and I 
bet he said something like don't worry nothing is gonna happen,
  never does.....BAM...somebody almost dies. Now what if he died? The 
diver  was under no instruction, its not a NOAA dive so his employer is off 
the hook, that "person" is gonna bail he's going to say it was an open trip 
and the guy was trimix trained. Who the fuck do you think the family is 
gonna sue, the fucking boat and Capt because they got insurance and 
somebody in that family is gonna want some money. All the boat heard was 
take us diving man we're really good nothing ever happens it will be okay.

Its not my intention to drag all you guys who were on that boat out, but if 
you're stupid enough to engage me come on, I know who you are.........





   At 07:09 PM 2/22/02 -0800, Joe wrote:
>JT, at first I thought you were just a poor hillbilly soul of limited 
>education and that was why I never ridiculed you when you posted like an 
>imbecile.  I guess I was wrong.  I misjudged you.  You seem to work at 
>making an ass out of yourself.  You really are a pathetic slug.
>
>Now I won't reduce myself to trading insults with the likes of you so I 
>will end this by saying that I asked a legitimate question for which you 
>have no answer because the correct answer, that it served no purpose to 
>invade Becky's privacy, does not suit your need.
>
>Now, idiot.  Yes I was there and yes I know who was on the boat.  Tell 
>you? Ha!  My dogs come to me.  Go fetch Fido!
>
>Have a nice weekend and remember your flea collar.
>
>Best regards.
>
>Joe Citelli
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:captjt@mi*.co*>Capt JT
>>To: <mailto:joe@po*.co*>Joe ; <mailto:cobber@ci*.co*>Jim 
>>Cobb ; <mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com>Techdiver
>>Cc: <mailto:aocfishman@ho*.co*>Michael Barnette
>>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:56 PM
>>Subject: Re: AUE Keys accident
>>
>>That was bait your asshole boy hoped we would take, I saw no need to hold 
>>it back, as everyone already knew who it was, it was your asshole boys 
>>loop hole he put in there and did not think we would put it out there, I 
>>told Cobb to go ahead don't delete it as  he would try to use it against 
>>us if we did that, I hide nothing......so its out there, now asshole see 
>>if you can do the same, name everyone on the boat.......you were there.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  At 06:24 PM 2/22/02 -0800, Joe wrote:
>>> > > I will not disclose the divers name as that is not their wish, for 
>>> those
>>> > > that know who it was, please respect that wish.
>>>Capt JT   Thursday, July 12, 2001 6:58 PM
>>>
>>> >>determined that Becky had..........Jim Cobb    February 21, 2002 6:12 PM
>>>
>>>So much for respecting her medical privacy. Perhaps that plus 
>>>nonsensical rants from people who don't dive is the reason so many have 
>>>no interest in posting to this forum.
>>>
>>>So now I would like to know what lessons were learned from the thread 
>>>about Becky's seizure?  Do you know what caused it?  Did she do anything 
>>>wrong?  Are you able to disseminate any new information?
>>>
>>>I think not.  A lot of noise.  No information.  The usual.
>>>
>>>My guess is that the post was made so that a bunch of guys who were 
>>>present could give themselves a deserved pat on the back for a job well 
>>>done.  They did it at the expense of her privacy but so what.  If that 
>>>what it takes to motivate you that's fine.  For the record, its called 
>>>self aggrandizement.  We just don't buy into that or the notion that we 
>>>need to feed the wolves to keep them quiet.
>>>
>>>If there was a shred of useful or new information, I would support 
>>>giving it out for all to learn from.  There is nothing new or revealing 
>>>here.  All basic stuff that could occur on any dive.  If by chance we 
>>>can glean some knowledge from this, the boorish behavior of a few will 
>>>insure that it doesn't get posted.  The technique of senseless attacks 
>>>under the pretense of asking a legitimate question won't work.  No one 
>>>cares what some dimwitted internet interloper has to say.
>>>
>>>Joe Citelli
>>
>>"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in 
>>the water"
>>
>>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more
>>  Web Site  http://www.capt-jt.com/
>>Email     captjt@mi*.co*

"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the 
water"

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Joe, let me tell you what could of happened. Follow this if you
can.  The GD boat you used to do the dive has no experience in
technical diving, they have only been in the business for 2 maybe 3
years. Now with the exception of a handful there are a bunch of fools in
the group to dive with you. Just to fill the boat, now this boat may only
have the word of one person and I bet he said something like don't worry
nothing is gonna happen,<br>
 never does.....BAM...somebody almost dies. Now what if he died? The
diver  was under no instruction, its not a NOAA dive so his employer
is off the hook, that "person" is gonna bail he's going to say
it was an open trip and the guy was trimix trained. Who the fuck do you
think the family is gonna sue, the fucking boat and Capt because they got
insurance and somebody in that family is gonna want some money. All the
boat heard was take us diving man we're really good nothing ever happens
it will be okay.<br>
<br>
Its not my intention to drag all you guys who were on that boat out, but
if you're stupid enough to engage me come on, I know who you
are.........<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
  At 07:09 PM 2/22/02 -0800, Joe wrote:<br>
<font face="tahoma" size=2><blockquote type=cite cite>JT, at first I
thought you were just a poor hillbilly soul of limited education and that
was why I never ridiculed you when you posted like an imbecile.  I
guess I was wrong.  I misjudged you.  You seem to work at
making an ass out of yourself.  You really are a pathetic slug.
</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="tahoma" size=2>Now I won't reduce myself to trading insults
with the likes of you so I will end this by saying that I asked a
legitimate question for which you have no answer because the correct
answer, that it served no purpose to invade Becky's privacy, does not
suit your need.</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="tahoma" size=2>Now, idiot.  Yes I was there and yes I
know who was on the boat.  Tell you? Ha!  My dogs come to
me.  Go fetch Fido!</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="tahoma" size=2>Have a nice weekend and remember your flea
collar.</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="tahoma" size=2>Best regards.</font><br>
 <br>
<font face="tahoma" size=2>Joe Citelli</font><br>
 <br>
 <br>
----- Original Message ----- <br>
<b><blockquote type=cite cite>From:</b>
<a href="mailto:captjt@mi*.co*">Capt JT</a> <br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:joe@po*.co*">Joe</a> ; <a
href="mailto:cobber@ci*.co*">Jim Cobb</a> ; <a
href="mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">Techdiver</a> <br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:aocfishman@ho*.co*">Michael Barnette</a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 22, 2002 4:56 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: AUE Keys accident<br>
<br>
That was bait your asshole boy hoped we would take, I saw no need to hold it
back, as everyone already knew who it was, it was your asshole boys loop hole
he put in there and did not think we would put it out there, I told Cobb to go
ahead don't delete it as  he would try to use it against us if we did
that, I hide nothing......so its out there, now asshole see if you can do the
same, name everyone on the boat.......you were there.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
 At 06:24 PM 2/22/02 -0800, Joe wrote:<br>
<font face="tahoma" size=2 color="#FF0000"><blockquote type=cite
cite>> > I will not disclose the divers name as that is not their wish,
for those<br>
> > that know who it was, please respect that wish.<br>
</font><font face="tahoma" size=2 color="#0000FF">Capt JT  
Thursday, July 12, 2001 6:58 PM </font><br>
<br>
<font face="tahoma" size=2 color="#FF0000">>>determined that Becky
had..........</font><font face="tahoma" size=2 color="#0000FF">Jim
Cobb    February 21, 2002 6:12 PM<br>
</font><br>
<font face="tahoma" size=2>So much for respecting her medical privacy.
Perhaps that plus nonsensical rants from people who don't dive is the reason so
many have no interest in posting to this forum.<br>
</font><br>
So now I would like to know what lessons were learned from the thread about
Becky's seizure?  Do you know what caused it?  Did she do anything
wrong?  Are you able to disseminate any new information?  <br>
<br>
I think not.  A lot of noise.  No information.  The usual. 
<br>
<br>
My guess is that the post was made so that a bunch of guys who were present
could give themselves a deserved pat on the back for a job well done. 
They did it at the expense of her privacy but so what.  If that what it
takes to motivate you that's fine.  For the record, its called self
aggrandizement.  We just don't buy into that or the notion that we need to
feed the wolves to keep them quiet.<br>
<br>
If there was a shred of useful or new information, I would support giving it
out for all to learn from.  There is nothing new or revealing here. 
All basic stuff that could occur on any dive.  If by chance we can glean
some knowledge from this, the boorish behavior of a few will insure that it
doesn't get posted.  The technique of senseless attacks under the pretense
of asking a legitimate question won't work.  No one cares what some
dimwitted internet interloper has to say.<br>
<br>
Joe Citelli </blockquote><br>
"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in
the water"<br>
<br>
<font color="#0000FF"><u>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East
Coast & more <br>
 Web Site  <a href="http://www.capt-jt.com/"
eudora="autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</a><br>
Email     captjt@mi*.co*<br>
</font></u></blockquote></blockquote><br>

"You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in
the water"<br>
<br>
<font color="#0000FF"><u>Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East
Coast & more <br>
 Web Site  <a href="http://www.capt-jt.com/"
eudora="autourl">http://www.capt-jt.com/</a><br>
Email     captjt@mi*.co*<br>
<br>
</font></u></html>

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