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At 04:18 PM 2/22/02 +0000, Michael Barnette wrote: >How many times have I said this "ASK DAVE"? He has been given the full >details to the extent known. Sit down, shut up, and take an example from him. The only reason Dave is not answering you moron is because he is working. I just had lunch with him and says your full of shit..... >As I have also said, I have given out the information to numerous other >people. However, you and JT lost that privilege by virtue of your stupidity. > >There is no "code of silence." There is only a low tolerance for the >bullshit and grandstanding that occurs on these lists, of which you and JT >are wonderful examples. > >Mike > >>From: James Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> >>Reply-To: <VBTech@ci*.co*> (VBTech list) >>To: <VBTech@ci*.co*> (VBTech list) >>CC: captjt@mi*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com >>Subject: Re: Last weekend's accident at Little River - newspaper report >>Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:03:39 -0500 >> >>Mikey, the reason I have a bunch of BAD INFORMATION is because YOU ARE NOT >>PROVIDING ANY. >> >>And not only are you not providing any, nobody else is either. I asked for a >>first-hand account on what happened but nobody will talk. Apparently there >>is a fear down there that if anything gets out you will blacklist the source >>from any dives AUE is associated with, and lets face it that's most tech >>trips in Florida. >> >>The North East "code of silence" is alive and well and is now well >>established in Florida. >> >>If this is not true then I (and the list most likely) would appreciate a >>first hand account from anybody who was associated with this incident. For >>the sake of clarity and to stop the rumor mill. Any takers? >> >>Thank you for all your excellent information on this, Mikey, I feel I am now >>a better diver. >> >> Jim >> >>On 2/22/02 10:17 AM, "Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*> wrote: >> >> > Jimmy- >> > You got a lot of bad information. From the blood issue, to Eric's >> > involvement, to evacuation. However, since a few of you were so nice to >> > involve my employer, I will kindly tell you all to kiss my ass. If >> you want >> > the reports, which were filed two days after the incident, call Seattle >> > (sorry, no cover-up there either). >> > Cheers, >> > Mike >> > >> > >> >> From: James Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> >> >> To: Michael Barnette <aocfishman@ho*.co*>, <captjt@mi*.co*>, >> >> "vbtech@ci*.co*" <vbtech@ci*.co*>, >> <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >> >> CC: <dwiden@co*.ne*> >> >> Subject: Re: Last weekend's accident at Little River - newspaper report >> >> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:48:01 -0500 >> >> >> >> Mike a question for you. >> >> >> >> As I understand it at the time of the incident the NOAA guy had >> classic TOX >> >> symptoms, he was convulsing and his mask was full of blood. Eric got >> him to >> >> the surface and on the dive boat, the Coast Guard took him in and he >> got a >> >> chamber ride. >> >> >> >> What is interesting to me about this, does an AGE have the same basic >> >> symptoms of a TOX at the time of occurrence? If you have a bubble >> shutting >> >> off blood to part of your brain, that points to brain damage. A TOX, >> if you >> >> survive, does not lead to brain damage, if I understand things correctly. >> >> Does the diver have neurological symptoms? How did the doctors >> determine it >> >> was AGE over TOX? >> >> >> >> All you AUE guys who still think that "it is simply morbid curiosity >> here, >> >> and DIR guys trying to make a pathetic point" are simply wrong. I want to >> >> know, from a survivor, what prestages an AGE, what, as divers, should >> we be >> >> aware of? Certainly if we can recognize the difference between an AGE >> and a >> >> TOX it would be a really handy thing to know. >> >> >> >> Certainly you guys want to know, don't you? And if you do know, will you >> >> share your knowledge with us pathetic, low-rent, non-divers? >> >> >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> On 2/21/02 10:51 PM, "Michael Barnette" <aocfishman@ho*.co*> wrote: >> >> >> >>>> Thanks for bring this up Mike, it makes me wonder about this....... >> >> Wasn't >> >>>> that a NOAA "sponsored dive"? a NOAA diver that was hurt? if it was it >> >>>> doesn't sound like it was a recreational dive to me, or was this one of >> >>>> those gray areas that is just OK when you do it. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> For it to be a NOAA-sponsored dive, you would need to draft a research >> >> plan >> >>> that has to be reviewed for authorization by the NDP Safety Board. A >> >>> NOAA-authorized technical dive has numerous requirements. In contrast, >> >> this >> >>> was a recreational dive where each and every person payed a charter fee. >> >>> For me, being a NOAA working diver, it was a non-duty dive. No grey >> >> area. >> >>> >> >>> If you are interested in learning more about the NOAA Dive Program, >> >> please >> >>> feel free to call the Seattle office. They can bring you up to speed. >> >>> >> >>> FWIW, the NOAA funded, NURC dives are in March. >> >>> >> >>> what else ya got chief? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >> >>> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Michael C. Barnette >> > Association of Underwater Explorers >> > Because it's there...somewhere...maybe. >> > http://www.mikey.net/aue >> > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > --- >> > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> > the mailing list <VBTech@ci*.co*>. >> > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <VBTech-off@ci*.co*> >> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <VBTech-digest@ci*.co*> >> > To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to <VBTech-index@ci*.co*> >> > Send administrative queries to <VBTech-request@ci*.co*> >> > >> > >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list <VBTech@ci*.co*>. >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <VBTech-off@ci*.co*> >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <VBTech-digest@ci*.co*> >>To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to <VBTech-index@ci*.co*> >>Send administrative queries to <VBTech-request@ci*.co*> > > > > >Michael C. Barnette >Association of Underwater Explorers >Because it's there...somewhere...maybe. >http://www.mikey.net/aue > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. "You can't learn to dive on the net, sooner or later you have to get in the water" Your Guide to Great Wreck Diving along the East Coast & more Web Site http://www.capt-jt.com/ Email captjt@mi*.co* -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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