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From: "Rocky" <rocdiver@be*.ne*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Fw: Tech Diving in Grand Cayman
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 17:50:11 -0500
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Fraser Purdon : Ocean Frontiers=20
To: Rocky=20
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Tech Diving in Grand Cayman



Mr Black
As you have pointed out, you haven't seen every square inch so you have =
no idea what the Est End Dive Sites are like.
I can assure you that many of the sites CAN compare with Little =
Cayman.....well the Aggressor thinks so anyway.
The prevailing winds are usually out of the North East, so this means =
the South East will be the leeward side of the island, but I=20
I guess if one foot seas are not your thing, the west is the place for =
you.
Who mentioned anything about shore diving, but since you brought the =
subject up....the shore diving is excellent......again, far superior=20
than anything the west side has to offer, but, granted, the prevailing =
wind direction can hamper one's shore diving efforts.
Ask any west side divemaster about shore diving on the East ....they'll =
mention Babylon, as a "fabled" shore dive.
I am not interested in conquering the world.......and if folks have an =
attitude , then that's their problem. I am just interested in what =
happens with the
 staff at my operation.

Regards

Fraser Purdon   =20
   --- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rocky=20
  To: fraser@oc*.co*=20
  Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 2:58 AM
  Subject: Fw: Tech Diving in Grand Cayman


  the saga continues . . .
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
  To: "Rocky" <rocdiver@be*.ne*>
  Cc: "Aquanaut Mail" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
  Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 11:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Tech Diving in Grand Cayman


  > Well Fraser, You may like your east end of Grand Cayman and I
  > did appreciate the invitation to dive with you, but...I had
  > signed up with Divetech/Cobalt Coast long before your invitation,
  > the prevailing winds all week (Jan. 19 - 26, 02) were out of
  > the east (your end), and say what you want, there is no way
  > any part of Grand Cayman (and you're right, I haven't seen
  > every square inch) can compare with Little Cayman's spectacular
  > wall.  Furthermore, if shore diving were so great on your end,
  > don't you suppose the dive resorts would be rearranged a little
  > differently?  A couple of divers from my group did make the
  > one-hour drive to your shop and did a shark dive with you, which
  > they enjoyed; but for me, you weren't on my agenda.  And if
  > you think there are only one or two Doing-It-Rightists with
  > an attitude, you have a world to conquer.  Thanks again, and
  > good luck with your future diving.
  >
  > --- Rocky <rocdiver@be*.ne*> wrote:
  > >
  > >
  > > Mr. Black,
  > > You cannot catagorize all of the diving on Grand Cayman by the =
tiny
  amount
  > > you saw either at Divetech or Sunset House.
  > > When you posted your original request for info. I responded, and =
invited
  you
  > > out to the East End. To my knowledge, you never came.
  > > The East End has pristine walls and shallow reefs of far better =
quality
  than
  > > anywhere else on the island and definitely on a par with the =
Sister
  Islands.
  > > As your last trip was "nearly twenty years ago" I doubt that you =
have
  > > experienced much of what Grand Cayman has to offer in the way of =
diving.
  > > I am sorry about your experience with the Doing It Rightist you
  encountered.
  > > As I also mentioned, I have seven staff who all dive somewhat DIR, =
not
  one
  > > is loud-mouthed, arrogant, self-centred or obnoxious, if we were , =
then
  I
  > > guess we wouldn't have been voted the World's Best Staff by the =
readers
  of
  > > Rodales.
  > > If you know the name of this individual, perhaps I could contact =
him and
  > > explain that his attitude does nothing to enhance the progression =
of
  DIR.
  > >
  > > Regards, and please look us up next time you visit Grand Cayamn.
  > >
  > > Fraser Purdon
  > >
  > > Operations Manager  www.oceanfrontiers.com
  > >
  > > GUE Instructor   www.gue.com
  > >
  > >
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
  > > To: "Aquanaut Mail" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
  > > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 6:13 PM
  > > Subject: Tech Diving in Grand Cayman
  > >
  > >
  > > > Was in Grand Cayman for a week of tech diving and have a couple
  > > > of comments.
  > > >
  > > > The good:  Divetech, www.divetech.com, and Cobalt Coast Resort,
  > > > www.cobaltcoast.com, were first-class and I recommend them =
highly
  > > > to rec and/or tech divers alike. The IANTD trimix course I took
  > > > met my expectations, and the instructors at Divetech are heavy
  > > > on knowledge and light on ego (in contrast to this mailing =
list).
  > > > And meeting Tom Mount briefly at Sunset House, teaching a =
rebreather
  > > > course, was a pleasure...Tom, you are in great shape for your =
age,
  > > > and thanks for a great course.
  > > >
  > > > The not-so-good:  The diving at Grand Cayman sadly does not
  > > > compare with her sister islands, Brac and Little.  Although very
  > > > good in general, the wall on Grand pales compared to the wall on
  > > > Little (but then few if any other walls in the Caribbean can =
compare
  > > > to Little).  The shallow stuff at Divetech, where most deco time =
is
  > > > spent, is sandy, lacking in coral and marine life, and basically
  > > > dull.  A few lettuce-leaf nudibranchs are crawling about, but I
  > > > expected lots of coral and marine life right up to shore, and =
that
  > > > just is not the case.  Finally, Grand Cayman has developed
  exponentially
  > > > since my last dive trip there, nearly twenty years ago.  It has =
become
  > > > an island for the very rich, moreso than any Caribbean island I =
have
  > > > visited (Cozumel, Roatan, Cayman Brac, Grand Turk, =
Providenciales,
  > > > Bonaire, Curacao, Martinique, to name some), and a diver can do =
much
  > > > better IMHO.  Oh and I'm pretty sure I saw my first =
Doing-It-Rightist
  > > > ever on a dive trip, at the resort.  The Halcyon BC and =
steel-springed
  > > > finstraps were evident, plus the guy was a loud-mouthed, =
arrogant,
  > > > obnoxious, self-centered type...yep, that'd be DIR.
  > > >
  > > > MJB
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > __________________________________________________
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  >
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A=20
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Purdon : Ocean Frontiers</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drocdiver@be*.ne*=20
href=3D"mailto:rocdiver@be*.ne*">Rocky</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 10, 2002 2:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Tech Diving in Grand Cayman</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mr Black</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As you have pointed out, you haven't =
seen every=20
square inch so you have no idea what the Est End Dive Sites are=20
like.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can assure you that many of the sites =
CAN compare=20
with Little Cayman.....well the Aggressor thinks so anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The prevailing winds are usually out of =
the North=20
East, so this means the South East will be the leeward side of =
the=20
island, but I </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess if one foot seas are not =
your thing,=20
the west is the place for you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Who mentioned anything about shore=20
diving, but since you brought the subject up....the shore =
diving=20
is excellent......again, far superior </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>than anything the west side has to =
offer, but,=20
granted, the prevailing wind direction can hamper one's shore diving=20
efforts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ask any west side divemaster about =
shore diving on=20
the East ....they'll mention Babylon, as a "fabled" shore =

dive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am not interested in conquering the=20
world.......and if folks have an attitude , then that's their problem. I =
am just=20
interested in what happens with the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> staff at my =
operation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fraser =
Purdon   </FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>  </FONT> --- Original
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Drocdiver@be*.ne* =
href=3D"mailto:rocdiver@be*.ne*">Rocky</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dfraser@oc*.co*=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:fraser@oc*.co*">fraser@oceanfrontiers.com</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 10,
2002 =
2:58=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fw: Tech Diving in =
Grand=20
  Cayman</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>the saga continues . . .<BR>----- Original
Message=20
  -----<BR>From: "Michael J. Black" <<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*">mjblackmd@yahoo.com</A>><BR>To: =
"Rocky"=20
  <<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rocdiver@be*.ne*">rocdiver@bellsouth.net</A>><BR>=
Cc:=20
  "Aquanaut Mail" <<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
Sent:=20
  Saturday, February 09, 2002 11:34 PM<BR>Subject: Re: Tech Diving in =
Grand=20
  Cayman<BR><BR><BR>> Well Fraser, You may like your east end of =
Grand Cayman=20
  and I<BR>> did appreciate the invitation to dive with you, but...I=20
  had<BR>> signed up with Divetech/Cobalt Coast long before your=20
  invitation,<BR>> the prevailing winds all week (Jan. 19 - 26, 02) =
were out=20
  of<BR>> the east (your end), and say what you want, there is no =
way<BR>>=20
  any part of Grand Cayman (and you're right, I haven't seen<BR>> =
every=20
  square inch) can compare with Little Cayman's spectacular<BR>> =
wall. =20
  Furthermore, if shore diving were so great on your end,<BR>> don't =
you=20
  suppose the dive resorts would be rearranged a little<BR>>=20
  differently?  A couple of divers from my group did make =
the<BR>>=20
  one-hour drive to your shop and did a shark dive with you, =
which<BR>> they=20
  enjoyed; but for me, you weren't on my agenda.  And if<BR>> =
you think=20
  there are only one or two Doing-It-Rightists with<BR>> an attitude, =
you=20
  have a world to conquer.  Thanks again, and<BR>> good luck =
with your=20
  future diving.<BR>><BR>> --- Rocky <<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:rocdiver@be*.ne*">rocdiver@bellsouth.net</A>>=20
  wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > Mr. Black,<BR>>
> =
You=20
  cannot catagorize all of the diving on Grand Cayman by the=20
  tiny<BR>amount<BR>> > you saw either at Divetech or Sunset=20
  House.<BR>> > When you posted your original request for info. I=20
  responded, and invited<BR>you<BR>> > out to the East End. To my=20
  knowledge, you never came.<BR>> > The East End has pristine =
walls and=20
  shallow reefs of far better quality<BR>than<BR>> > anywhere else =
on the=20
  island and definitely on a par with the Sister<BR>Islands.<BR>> =
> As=20
  your last trip was "nearly twenty years ago" I doubt that you =
have<BR>>=20
  > experienced much of what Grand Cayman has to offer in the way of=20
  diving.<BR>> > I am sorry about your experience with the Doing =
It=20
  Rightist you<BR>encountered.<BR>> > As I also mentioned, I have =
seven=20
  staff who all dive somewhat DIR, not<BR>one<BR>> > is =
loud-mouthed,=20
  arrogant, self-centred or obnoxious, if we were , then<BR>I<BR>> =
> guess=20
  we wouldn't have been voted the World's Best Staff by the=20
  readers<BR>of<BR>> > Rodales.<BR>> > If you know the
name =
of this=20
  individual, perhaps I could contact him and<BR>> > explain that =
his=20
  attitude does nothing to enhance the progression of<BR>DIR.<BR>>=20
  ><BR>> > Regards, and please look us up next time you visit =
Grand=20
  Cayamn.<BR>> ><BR>> > Fraser Purdon<BR>>
><BR>> =
>=20
  Operations Manager  <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.oceanfrontiers.com">www.oceanfrontiers.com</A><BR>>=
=20
  ><BR>> > GUE Instructor   <A=20
  href=3D"http://www.gue.com">www.gue.com</A><BR>> ><BR>> =
><BR>>=20
  > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: "Michael J. =
Black" <<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:mjblackmd@ya*.co*">mjblackmd@yahoo.com</A>><BR>> =
> To:=20
  "Aquanaut Mail" <<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:techdiver@aquanaut.com">techdiver@aquanaut.com</A>><BR>=
>=20
  > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 6:13 PM<BR>> > Subject: =
Tech Diving=20
  in Grand Cayman<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > > Was in =
Grand=20
  Cayman for a week of tech diving and have a couple<BR>> > > =
of=20
  comments.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > The good:  =
Divetech, <A=20
  href=3D"http://www.divetech.com">www.divetech.com</A>, and Cobalt =
Coast=20
  Resort,<BR>> > > <A=20
  href=3D"http://www.cobaltcoast.com">www.cobaltcoast.com</A>, were =
first-class=20
  and I recommend them highly<BR>> > > to rec and/or tech =
divers alike.=20
  The IANTD trimix course I took<BR>> > > met my expectations, =
and the=20
  instructors at Divetech are heavy<BR>> > > on knowledge and =
light on=20
  ego (in contrast to this mailing list).<BR>> > > And meeting =
Tom=20
  Mount briefly at Sunset House, teaching a rebreather<BR>> > > =
course,=20
  was a pleasure...Tom, you are in great shape for your age,<BR>> =
> >=20
  and thanks for a great course.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > The =

  not-so-good:  The diving at Grand Cayman sadly does not<BR>> =
> >=20
  compare with her sister islands, Brac and Little.  Although =
very<BR>>=20
  > > good in general, the wall on Grand pales compared to the =
wall=20
  on<BR>> > > Little (but then few if any other walls in the =
Caribbean=20
  can compare<BR>> > > to Little).  The shallow stuff at =
Divetech,=20
  where most deco time is<BR>> > > spent, is sandy, lacking in =
coral=20
  and marine life, and basically<BR>> > > dull.  A few=20
  lettuce-leaf nudibranchs are crawling about, but I<BR>> > > =
expected=20
  lots of coral and marine life right up to shore, and that<BR>> > =
>=20
  just is not the case.  Finally, Grand Cayman has=20
  developed<BR>exponentially<BR>> > > since my last dive trip =
there,=20
  nearly twenty years ago.  It has become<BR>> > > an =
island for=20
  the very rich, moreso than any Caribbean island I have<BR>> > =
>=20
  visited (Cozumel, Roatan, Cayman Brac, Grand Turk, =
Providenciales,<BR>>=20
  > > Bonaire, Curacao, Martinique, to name some), and a diver can =
do=20
  much<BR>> > > better IMHO.  Oh and I'm pretty sure I saw =
my=20
  first Doing-It-Rightist<BR>> > > ever on a dive trip, at the=20
  resort.  The Halcyon BC and steel-springed<BR>> > > =
finstraps=20
  were evident, plus the guy was a loud-mouthed, arrogant,<BR>> > =
>=20
  obnoxious, self-centered type...yep, that'd be DIR.<BR>> > =
><BR>>=20
  > > MJB<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > =
><BR>>=20
  > > __________________________________________________<BR>> =
> >=20
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