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From: "George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
To: <scuba@md*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: George and "Stupid"
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 23:38:16 -0500
Ted, first of all , you need to retract this nonsense. Secondly, I never did
any dive for a "buzz", and I am one of the first people to have gone to
helium as solution to diving deeper. Luckily, I had already figured that out
before I ever started cave diving. What I now call deep air is any air is
any air. It took me a little longer to figure out that air was useless as a
diving gas for anything, including deco, and that using it for deep deco was
doing nothing but causing damage.

When I find out better information than what I had possessed, I adopt it and
immediately change my mind, and I inform anyone who has an interest as to
the change. Others do not seem to be able to do that, not that they actually
seek out or develop anything. They just get beaten over the head with it or
see it happen all around them and capitulate.

I find things out, develop things, share things and continue to progress. I
have developed more in tech diving than any combination of players out
there.

I think your boy Danny is one of the worst possible choices as an
instructor, and certainly with the alternatives now out there, he is not
even in the running.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Green [mailto:scuba@md*.co*]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:04 AM
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: George and "Stupid"


From:           	"George Irvine" <girvine@be*.ne*>
Subject:        	RE: Wreck diving instruction

>Funny how they all beat their chest and are so proud of their little
>toys. Funny that none of them can ever get the job done. What is
>not so funny is that they are stupid enough to think that these
>things represent some deco advantage or other silliness, while
>operating under the same fog of stupidity with which they have
>approached all of their previous diving.

> You can't fix stupid, and you will not fix the Seeker crew or its regular
> patrons.

This comes from a former card carrying member of the "Narcosis
Club" who used to do deep air dives for the buzz. Then there was
your cocaine addiction. As you are so fond of saying, you always
strive to be the best at what you do and cocaine and deep air were
no exception!

Cocaine and Deep Air are the dictionary definition of "Stupid"!

Now tell us again about not being able to fix "stupid". Or is it only
stupid after you stop doing it?

Sorry George, every now and then you get a little to sanctimonious
and someone needs to remind you that everyone does stupid stuff,
sees the error of their ways and moves on.........even you!


Ted Green
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"Diving the Atlantic coast from Cape May NJ to Cape Charles VA."
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