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From: "Ken Paramore" <kennyp@sn*.co*>
To: "Curt Degler" <cdegler@aq*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Helmets for cave diving. What's the deal?
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:37:38 -0600
Curt,
Look in Quest Magazine Vol. 1, No. 2 Winter/Spring 2000.
There is an article on this by Mark V. Lonsdale. It might be on-line at
Gue's website.
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: Curt Degler <cdegler@aq*.co*>
To: <Jsuw@ao*.co*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Helmets for cave diving. What's the deal?


> At 10:11 AM 1/12/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >I have never done sidemount, so I can't speak to that, but I can say that
> >I've seen a number of these discussions where one group or individual
> >loudly says that DIR will not work in their environment, only to finally
> >come to the conclusion that there is no reason it won't.  Not only that,
> >but it probably will streamline, simplify, and make safer what is done.
>
> In addition to rec, tech, and commercial diving there is a 4th variation
> (and some will say there are more ) on being underwater called Public
> Safety Diving. PSD itself has many incarnations, including swiftwater
> rescue and recovery, but the main stem of this activity is recovery of
> bodies and evidence in waters less than 60ft with visibility approaching
or
> at zero(blackwater),  with a high potential for encountering unknown
> obstructions underwater including masses of barbed wire and abandoned
> vehicles,  often in very cold and contaminated water.
>
> Painting with very broad strokes, the diving is performed by single divers
> on SCUBA using back mounted single tanks and mounted, not slung pony
> bottles, tethered and controlled by tenders, with two backup divers on the
> surface, one ready to go.
>
> No buddies, no doubles, no DPVs, no reels, no cannister lights,no 7 ft
> hoses, no wings,  pockets instead of d-rings, etc. Not DIR, unless by this
> term you refer only to a method of thinking.
>
> Reading the account of the form of cave diving performed by the Brits, in
> very tight circumstances in zero viz it seems that what they are doing is
a
> lot more like PSD  than 2 mile penetrations at 60 fathoms,(where DIR has
> more than proven itself to be the method par excellence - no argument
there).
>
> How would DIR configure the PSD diver?  Is there a DIR form of PSD diving?
> Who practices it and how are they confgured? And how would the DIR diver
> configure himself in the sumps the Brit divers "stroke" through?
>
> >  Change is often difficult to accept.   A first step is admitting that
> > there is room for improvement in what is currently being done.
>
> This is true. But can it be said does it apply to DIR itself especially
> after those at the top of the DIR hierarchy have decided how it is to be
done?
>
> Curt Degler
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