I am not sure yet on the exact number, but they will be slightly less than
my normal Gavins and a lot less than the submersion. I will also switch them
out for anyone who does not like them at no charge.

-----Original Message-----
From: cavers-admin@sa*.or* [mailto:cavers-admin@sa*.or*]On Behalf
Of Gertje
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 1:18 PM
To: Trey; quest@gu*.co*; Cavers@Ca*.Co*; Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
Subject: [cavers] Re: scooters


Just curious,

What are they going to cost ?

Gertjan

> By the way, I make both types of scooter now - the original Gavin and
> another one that is made from HDPE and is tapered at the back, only mine
> really is one piece and does not have the bullshit aluminum pipe with
orings
> as a motor compartment like the "submersion", does snot have the kluge
> wiring like the submersion , and does not have the convoluted battery
> arrangement nor the ridiculous "motorcycle handle".
>
> My version is interchangeable with all Gavins I have made, and uses the
same
> internal parts, works the same way. For instance, mine has $68 cost of
gold
> connectors, my motor compartment is one with the tail, and the body is
hard
> pvc while the rest is soft HDPE. The nose keys the batteries.
>
> I made this because I am sick of strokes copying our hard work and
profiting
> from it, like the submersion guy. This version of the scooter is cheaper
to
> produce than the Gavin, so I will be selling it cheaper, and a hell of a
lot
> cheaper than submersion.
>
> I will also be maintaining the Gavins for our use and for those who want
the
> sure thing at the extreme depths that we know the Gavin is made for.
>
> The only changes I am making to the Gavin are to offer the HDPE nose for
> those who want it with the hard nose for super deep, and am using a screw
in
> reed switch if you want it to adjust the trigger more easily.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 7:28 AM
> To: pina; E.N. Von; quest@gu*.co*
> Subject: RE: scooters
>
>
>
> The scooters pretty much all act the same regardless of size if they are
> balanced correctly. Look at the pictures of JJ and I scootering and towing
> magnum's. The big scooters have more lateral stability in motion so are
> actually easier and more comfortable to ride than little ones.
>
> Pina rides a magnum back to the far reaches of Manatee with no problem.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pina [mailto:pina3@be*.ne*]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:44 PM
> To: E.N. Von; quest@gu*.co*
> Subject: RE: scooters
>
>
>
> Just get a Gavin and DIR - no sense fluffing about with other stuff that
> won't get you anywhere.
>
> --pina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: E.N. Von [mailto:evlink2001@ho*.co*]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:25 PM
> To: quest@gu*.co*
> Subject: scooters
>
>
> I am interesed in starting to learn to drive a scooter.  Can anyone give a
> good suggestion for a starter scooter.  I have a feeling that a Gavin
would
> be quite a bit to handle for a new driver, but I may be wrong, having
never
> having the chance to see one in person.
>
> Thanks in advance for you help.
>
> E.N. Von
> evlink2001@ho*.co*
>
>
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