Guys, I've switched apeks and the new zeagles u/w and never had a
problem, just remember to keep your finger over the oring (so not to lose
it) when it's off the valve and purge as you turn it back on, like G said.
Landon's problem comes from too much lotion. Salt or fresh, you gotta wipe
and dry the inside afterward-EZ

Eric Zimmerman
EZ Scuba Diving
7711 W Hillsborough Ave
Tampa Fl 33615
813 887 5712
www.ezscuba.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
To: "Paul Braunbehrens" <Bakalite@ba*.co*>; "terry michael"
<OEA51@go*.co*>; "Lee Bell" <leebell@ix*.ne*.co*>;
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 7:10 AM
Subject: regs was RE: Re: Scout bulbs


>
> I really don't worry about diaphragms being a switch problem, and I really
> do not plan on switching anyway, other than the second stage ( we leave
them
> finger tight for that reason). Most of the problems other than broken hose
> can be overcome by turning the valve off and on.
>
> Landon indicates that he has had problems with blowing out the diaphragm,
> but I never have had it happen. I can not see it happening if you have the
> second stage button pushed when you turn on the valve to clear any water.
>
> At deco is really the only place you want to stop and play with reg
> switching. I use almost all DIN anyway, and that solves the main problem
> that cause the need to switch regs anyway.
>
> Oceanic makes a good piston reg that looks like a MK 20 only you can
adjust
> it and it is half the price. I have a few of those.
>
> Like I said before, I have no Apeks or Oceanic parts. Last time I blew an
> Oceanic, I merely cleaned off the seat and put it back together. Last time
I
> blew an Apeks ( got sand in it ), I took out the seat, rubbed it with
emory
> cloth, and put it back in.
>
> Last time I had to fix a Scuba Pro, which is every week, it cost me 40
bucks
> each and the annoyance.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Braunbehrens [mailto:Bakalite@ba*.co*]
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 10:34 PM
> To: Trey; terry michael; Lee Bell; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: RE: Re: Scout bulbs
>
>
> The problem is finding a good replacement for the mk20 G250 combo.
> Since you don't want a diaphragm reg on a stage, in case you have to
> swap regs and flood the first, what can you do?  I love my Apeks for
> backgas, and being able to get the service kits is great.  I don't
> even dare open up the mk20, I have no parts, you need special tools,
> blah blah blah.  Anyway, Trey, if you know something else that works
> well, let us know.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> Trey wrote:
> ~
> >Terry, I don't know about the 380, never had one, but I do know that the
MK
> >20 has a ridiculous shim system for adjustment. If you do not take the
> shims
> >out, the pressure is way too high, and even after you do, you can not get
> it
> >down to 120 on most of them. Even when you do get the pressure down to an
> >acceptable level it does not last long, and begins to come back up again.
> >Some of our guys have tried altering the spring by compressing it for a
> long
> >time in a vise (futile bullshit), but most of our guys did the right
> thing -
> >Ebay, under the PT Barnum Theory.
> >
> >I still have some , but i use them as safety bottle regs since they do
last
> >being left in water,I can operate the valve when, not if they fail,  and
> the
> >only way a G 250 will work twice in a row is if it is not allowed to dry
> >out. An expensive mistake, even at the price of 125 charged to me by
Scuba
> >Pro for each set. I still got fucked if you add in the repair bills.
> >
> >Any new purchases by me are Apeks or Oceanic ( they have a some reliable
> >stuff that has lasted me with no problems). I have no repair parts for
> >either Apeks or Oceanic, and have never needed any. For Scuba Pro I have
a
> >huge bag of parts given to me by the Navy when they threw in the towel on
> >this crap. I have had to use most of them and spent some 600 bucks last
> year
> >alone getting these things fixed.
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: terry michael [mailto:OEA51@go*.co*]
> >Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 10:12 AM
> >To: Lee Bell; Trey; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> >Subject: Re: Re: Scout bulbs
> >
> >
> >>stainless plate and 18 lb lift wing, breath the long hose on a Scuba Pro
> >>Mk-20/G250 with a R380 on a necklace.
> >
> >R380? Isn't that great little performer a stroke reg? It's a dead give
away
> >in my opinion, R380 = STROKER. How many spacers you got in the Mk20's
> >anyway? ..he he he ;-)
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: "Lee Bell"<leebell@ix*.ne*.co*>
> >To: "Trey"<trey@ne*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
> >Date: Wed Oct 24 06:31:54 PDT 2001
> >Subject: Re: Scout bulbs
> >
> >>Trey wrote:
> >>
> >>>  "heat from shorted batteries" ?
> >>
> >>Yep.  Heat from shorted batteries.  It's a pretty routine event.  Salt
> >water
> >>shorts the battery and, presto, it heats up.  It's a pretty well known
> >>problem.  I'm surprised you didn't know about it.
> >>
> >>>  Hello, Mom? Lee, have you ever actually been diving, and do you have
> any
> >>>  experience with anything other than getting on dive lists and saying
> >>stupid ,
> >>>  misinformed, ridiculous things and then trying to pretend you know
what
> >>you are
> >>>  talking about?
> >>
> >>Hello, Trey?  Did you forget that some of us dive in salt water?
> >>
> >>You seem to have a short memory or, perhaps, don't bother to read what
> >>others have to say, so I'll repeat it for you.  Yes, I go diving.  I
> >started
> >>in 1962 after a home course given by a YMCA instructor and have been
> active
> >>every since.  My first card came from NAUI in 1969 when it became hard
to
> >>get air without one.  I did my cave diving back in the mid to late 60s.
> It
> >>was nothing like what you're doing now, but it was extreme for
> recreational
> >>divers of the time.  I do something in the range of 50 dives a year.  I
> >>didn't record anything for the first 30 years and am still not real good
> >>about doing so.  I've had a boat of my own since I was 6.  If I count my
> >>kayak and inflatable, I have 4 diveable boats at the moment and have
made
> >an
> >>offer on another.  I live in the same county as you do, know some of the
> >>same people and, when I use a commercial operator, dive off of some of
the
> >  >same boats you do.  I dive almost exclusively salt water.  I have a
> Haclyon
> >>stainless plate and 18 lb lift wing, breath the long hose on a Scuba Pro
> >>Mk-20/G250 with a R380 on a necklace.  I have two scout lights on the
> >>harness at all times.  I also have a Halcyon aluminum plate that I'm
> >>configuring for dive travel.  All of this was purchased from a store you
> >>know well, it's right next door to the Southport Raw Bar.  Remember the
> >>place?  It's called Brownies.
> >>
> >>My Scout light flooded, so did another posters.  When mine did, I went
> back
> >
> >>to Brownies.  They are the ones who told me about the problem reflectors
> >>from UK.  I didn't come up with it, I just repeated it here.  I also
said
> >>that the light is robust and that it was replaced promptly as I expected
> it
> >>would be.  I believe I had some nice things to say about the light, the
> >>shop, the the manufacturer and the CEO of the company.  Which of these
do
> >>you not agree with?
> >>
> >>>  I know the history of all of these pieces of equipment and am
involved
> in
> >>>  the evolution of every one of them. Just to correct your other piece
of
> >>>  bullshit, there are two basic similar light heads that those guys
make,
> >>and
> >>>  one will not fit where the other is designed to go - at all.
> >>
> >>Well, then I suppose the folks at Brownies were wrong.  Be sure to tell
> >them
> >>next time you stop into the shop.
> >>
> >>>  The problem is as I was saying, and a leaking light needs to be
> returned
> >>or thrown
> >>>  away, not taken on dives.
> >>
> >>You seem to be having a problem with reading.  Nobody, and certainly not
> >me,
> >>said that a leaking light should be taken on a dive, ever.  I said I
> >>returned mine and it was replaced.  It seems that we agree on a key
> >element.
> >>Not bad for a moron.  Perhaps you throw away $80 lights that fail, but
> most
> >>of us prefer to return them for a refund or replacement, as I did.  It
> also
> >>seems that I have a higher opinion of the Scout light than you do.  I
> don't
> >>expect a light that expensive to fail the second time it hits the water,
> as
> >>mine did.  I expected the light to work consistently and reliably
> >>specifically because it was developed for an environment that is
> >unforgiving
> >>of equipment failures and is manufacturered by someone who appears to
care
> >>about the quality of his products.  When the light did not live up to my
> >>expectations, I looked into why and got an answer that satisfied me.  If
> it
> >>had not, I would not be using Scout lights today.  If the answer is
wrong,
> >>then perhaps I should stop using them now.  Is that your recommendation?
> >>Tell me quickly because I'm about to introduce another diver to
equipment
> >JJ
> >>makes and if there's a quality problem, I'd like to know about it.
> >>
> >>>  You are not, do not, and have never been involved in anything but
> >bullshit
> >>>  on the web. You are the best example of what Capt JT is always
> >complaining
> >>>  about .
> >>
> >>No, I'm the best example of what you are always complaining about, a
diver
> >>who bothers to think for himself and make his own informed decisions on
> >>equipment and diving issues.  You're just going to have to live with the
> >>fact that not everyone thinks that blindly following another, even if
it's
> >>you, is a real great idea.  I've learned a lot directly and indirectly
> from
> >>members of your team, but since I have no desire or expectation of
joining
> >>your team, you'll just have to get over the fact that I can and will
think
> >>and decide for myself.
> >>
> >>Lee
> >>
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