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From: "Andrew M. Tozzolino" <atozzolino@st*.js*.mi*>
To: <RDecker388@ao*.co*>, <xlh883@ea*.ne*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Cc: <NCtechdivers@sportdiverhq.com>
Subject: Re: Who does the dives???
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 20:36:10 -0400
Organization: Titan Systems Corp
Dear Bob,

Thanks for sharing more of your dive wisdom once again. And since we're on
the subject of training,experience, and mentorship, what's your schedule
look like this month? Can we perform some additional dives and/or training
this month? I'm signed up for the Olympus weekend overnighter scheduled for
November 3rd and 4th. Perhaps this trip can offer some training
opportunities. How about this weekend?

Andrew.

----- Original Message -----
From: <RDecker388@ao*.co*>
To: <xlh883@ea*.ne*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Cc: <NCtechdivers@sportdiverhq.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Who does the dives???


> In a message dated 10/4/01 12:46:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> xlh883@ea*.ne* writes:
>
> > Here's a question since we are talking about required quals. for a given
> >  type of dive.  How does one go about getting that experience if he/she
is
> >  denied doing the dives in the first place due to lack of experience?
>
> David,
>
> Experience is gained by gradually working towards one's goals.  As one
gains
> experience at a particular level they reach a point where it's time to
push
> to the next one, if they so desire.  As a general rule there are many
> experienced technical and cave divers willing to mentor individuals as
they
> build-up experience.  I believe Capt. JT's comments about refusing certain
> "applicants" referred to those individuals who had failed to "pay their
> dues," and were seeking instead to jump straight into the "big dives."
>
> Without question the best practice for diving is diving.  The more time
one
> spends in the water the more problems they get to work through, the more
> comfortable they become as they build greater familiarity with their
> equipment, physiology and pyschology.  In order to build the experience
and
> skills needed every dive does not have to be at the edge of one's personal
> limits.  There is a lot to be gained from less challenging dives as well.
> The mechanics of a dive are the same requardless of depth.  The
predominate
> differences for "big dives" being the diver's psychology (stress) and a
> smaller margin for error.
>
> So how does all that add up in answering your question, "how does one go
> about getting that experience if he/she is denied doing the dives in the
> first place due to lack of experience?"  You start with training.
Training
> is not an end to all ends but provides a foundation of knowledge an skills
> upon which to build.  Pull back from the maximum depth/penetration/etc.
you
> achieved during training and apply the knowledge and skills learned by
doing
> several work-up dives untill you reach that maximum again, comfortably and
> competently.  Once you become proficient diving to these limits seek
> additional training or develop a mentorship relationship with a more
> experienced diver.  Again pull-back, apply what you learn and work your
way
> slowly back to your new maximums.  After building experience in a certain
> depth range no one is likely to deny you an opportunity to extend that
range
> by 10 or 20 feet.  However,  regardless of how many dives you accumulate
in a
> certain depth range, no responsible person in a position of authority is
> going to allow you to extend your range by 50, 75, or 100 feet of depth at
a
> time.  The opportunity to build experience is always there.  It simply
needs
> to be a gradual, rational transition.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob Decker
> list-owner NCtechdivers@sportdiverhq.com
> www.SportDiverHQ.com
>

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