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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Scott Cherf" <cherf@ci*.co*>
Cc: <cam@ca*.co*>, <Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com>
Subject: RE:
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 19:50:53 -0400
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Scott, you have no "experience" diving or you would not say something this
stupid. What are you doing for bailout these days, standing up? I remember
when you first got into this. You know about as much then as you do now -
nothing.

When you can do what I do with a rebreather, then that might indicate you
can tell me about it or get on this list with "advice". You are pure
bullshit.

I really detest dangerous idiots like you.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Scott Cherf [mailto:cherf@ci*.co*]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 10:22 AM
  To: Trey
  Cc: cam@ca*.co*; Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
  Subject: RE:



  >>>>

    Hypoxia dulls the upper level brain functions first, and then you don't
have the capacity to make any decisions about what happens next.

  <<<<

  George -

  Unlike you, I speak from experience. Spare us all you deep theoretical
  'understanding' of this subject.

  I'd tell you to take a seat but I really enjoy listening to you froth
  at the mouth spouting ignorant redneck stupidity like this. Keep up the
  good work.

  Scott.


  At 4:43 AM -0600 10/3/01, Trey wrote:
  > Scott, I see you are still a complete moron. Your "advice" is crap, and
you as usual have no clue what you are talking about. All the fantasies of
you big time rebreather divers keep getting dashed by the pile of bodies you
idiots are producing with your tough guy "every man for himself", "I can
handle it " attitude. size=2>
  >Every time I see a moron like you post something like this I am even more
grateful that I do not ever have to tolerate jerks like you diving with me
or around me, and that we have mandated a "no IANTD" policy for training on
the Halcyon RB 80. You idiots keep believing the lie, keep burying people,
and keep reminding us of how stupid you really are. Go back to the
rebreather list with the rest of the deluded. You weenies die doing dives
that barely require a single tank and open water gear, yet the message just
does not reach you. Your bullshit will not be tolerated here. Hypoxia dulls
the upper level brain functions first, and then you don't have the capacity
to make any decisions about what happens next. You are really a complete ass
and I for one will not tolerate your bullshit on here. You are a dangerous
idiot like the rest over there, a do nothing, a big "expert", and part of
the problem. ----Original Message-----
  >From: Scott Cherf [mailto:cherf@ci*.co*]
  >Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:18 PM
  >To: cam@ca*.co*
  >Cc: Trey; Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
  >Subject:
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >From: [mailto:cam@ca*.co*]
  >Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:04 PM
  >To: Trey; wkpp@ya*.co*
  >Cc: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
  >Subject: Re: [wkpp] George is right again
  >
  >Cam Banks said:
  >
  >>>>>
  >
  >
  >It'd be interesting to ask all the people who want to own a
  >rebreather if they've ever had the experience of passing out from

  >hypoxia. It's quick, and gives no warning.
  >
  ><<<<
  >
  >Cam -
  >
  >Have you ever passed out? From your description it seems you haven't.
  >
  >Hypoxia is not 'quick' and in does give warning. The warning signs are
  >variable, but usually include loss of color perception, tunnel vision,
  >impaired motor skills and 'giddyness' for lack of a better word.
  >
  >I took high altitude flight training at NAS Lemore every 3 years to
maintain
  >my rating with NASA. We did chamber runs as part of the training and
those
  >runs had the specific intent to train us to recognize the onset of
hypoxia.
  >There are warnings.
  >
  >Scott.





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you have no "experience" diving or you would not say something this =
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first got=20
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you can do what I do with a rebreather, then that might indicate you can =
tell me=20
about it or get on this list with "advice". You are pure=20
bullshit.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D226074823-03102001><FONT face=3DArial
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really detest dangerous idiots like you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Scott Cherf=20
  [mailto:cherf@ci*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 03, 2001 =
10:22=20
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> Trey<BR><B>Cc:</B> cam@ca*.co*;=20
  Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
  RE:<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR>>>>><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE>Hypoxia dulls the upper level brain functions first, and =
then=20
    you don't have the capacity to make any decisions about what happens =

    next.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><<<<<BR><BR>George
-<BR><BR>Unlike =
you, I=20
  speak from experience. Spare us all you deep =
theoretical<BR>'understanding' of=20
  this subject.<BR><BR>I'd tell you to take a seat but I really enjoy =
listening=20
  to you froth<BR>at the mouth spouting ignorant redneck stupidity like =
this.=20
  Keep up the<BR>good work.<BR><BR>Scott.<BR><BR><BR>At 4:43
AM -0600 =
10/3/01,=20
  Trey wrote:<BR>> Scott, I see you are still a complete moron. Your =
"advice"=20
  is crap, and you as usual have no clue what you are talking about. All =
the=20
  fantasies of you big time rebreather divers keep getting dashed by the =
pile of=20
  bodies you idiots are producing with your tough guy "every man for =
himself",=20
  "I can handle it " attitude. size=3D2><BR>>Every time I see a =
moron like=20
  you post something like this I am even more grateful that I do not =
ever have=20
  to tolerate jerks like you diving with me or around me, and that we =
have=20
  mandated a "no IANTD" policy for training on the Halcyon RB 80. You =
idiots=20
  keep believing the lie, keep burying people, and keep reminding us of =
how=20
  stupid you really are. Go back to the rebreather list with the rest of =
the=20
  deluded. You weenies die doing dives that barely require a single tank =
and=20
  open water gear, yet the message just does not reach you. Your =
bullshit will=20
  not be tolerated here. Hypoxia dulls the upper level brain functions =
first,=20
  and then you don't have the capacity to make any decisions about what =
happens=20
  next. You are really a complete ass and I for one will not tolerate =
your=20
  bullshit on here. You are a dangerous idiot like the rest over there, =
a do=20
  nothing, a big "expert", and part of the problem. ----Original=20
  Message-----<BR><B>>From:</B> Scott Cherf=20
  [mailto:cherf@ci*.co*]<BR><B>>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 02, 2001
=
9:18=20
  PM<BR><B>>To:</B> cam@ca*.co*<BR><B>>Cc:</B> Trey;=20
  Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com<BR><B>>Subject:
<BR></B>><BR>>=20
  <BR>><BR>><BR>>From: [mailto:cam@ca*.co*]<BR>>Sent: =
Tuesday,=20
  September 25, 2001 3:04 PM<BR>>To: Trey; =
wkpp@ya*.co*<BR>>Cc:=20
  Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com<BR>>Subject: Re: [wkpp] George is right=20
  again<BR>><BR>>Cam Banks =
said:<BR>><BR>>>>>><BR>>=20
  <BR>><BR>>It'd be interesting to ask all the people who want to =
own a=20
  <BR>>rebreather if they've ever had the experience of passing out=20
  from<BR><BR>>hypoxia. It's quick, and gives no=20
  warning.<BR>><BR>><<<<<BR>><BR>>Cam=20
  -<BR>><BR>>Have you ever passed out? From your description it =
seems you=20
  haven't.<BR>><BR>>Hypoxia is not 'quick' and in does give =
warning. The=20
  warning signs are<BR>>variable, but usually include loss of color=20
  perception, tunnel vision,<BR>>impaired motor skills and =
'giddyness' for=20
  lack of a better word.<BR>><BR>>I took high altitude flight =
training at=20
  NAS Lemore every 3 years to maintain<BR>>my rating with NASA. We =
did=20
  chamber runs as part of the training and those<BR>>runs had the =
specific=20
  intent to train us to recognize the onset of hypoxia.<BR>>There are =

  =
warnings.<BR>><BR>>Scott.<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE
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