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From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: "Scott Cherf" <cherf@ci*.co*>, <cam@ca*.co*>
Cc: <Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com>
Subject: RE:
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 06:43:30 -0400
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Scott, I see you are still a complete moron. Your "advice" is crap, and you
as usual have no clue what you are talking about. All the fantasies of you
big time rebreather divers keep getting dashed by the pile of bodies you
idiots are producing with your tough guy "every man for himself", "I can
handle it "  attitude.

Every time I see a moron like you post something like this I am even more
grateful that I do not ever have to tolerate jerks like you diving with me
or around me, and that we have mandated a "no IANTD" policy for training on
the Halcyon RB 80.

You idiots keep believing the lie, keep burying people, and keep reminding
us of how stupid you really are. Go back to the rebreather list with the
rest of the deluded. You weenies die doing dives that barely require a
single tank and open water gear, yet the message just does not reach you.

Your bullshit will not be tolerated here. Hypoxia dulls the upper level
brain functions first, and then you don't have the capacity to make any
decisions about what happens next. You are really a complete ass and I for
one will not tolerate your bullshit on here. You are a dangerous idiot like
the rest over there, a do nothing, a big "expert", and part of the problem.


 ----Original Message-----
From: Scott Cherf [mailto:cherf@ci*.co*]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:18 PM
To: cam@ca*.co*
Cc: Trey; Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
Subject:



  From: [mailto:cam@ca*.co*]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:04 PM
  To: Trey; wkpp@ya*.co*
  Cc: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com
  Subject: Re: [wkpp] George is right again

  Cam Banks said:

  >>>>

    It'd be interesting to ask all the people who want to own a
    rebreather if they've ever had the experience of passing out from
    hypoxia. It's quick, and gives no warning.

  <<<<

  Cam -

  Have you ever passed out? From your description it seems you haven't.

  Hypoxia is not 'quick' and in does give warning. The warning signs are
  variable, but usually include loss of color perception, tunnel vision,
  impaired motor skills and 'giddyness' for lack of a better word.

  I took high altitude flight training at NAS Lemore every 3 years to
maintain
  my rating with NASA. We did chamber runs as part of the training and those
  runs had the specific intent to train us to recognize the onset of
hypoxia.
  There are warnings.

  Scott.





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I see you are still a complete moron. Your "advice" is crap, and you as =
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have no clue what you are talking about. All the fantasies of you big =
time=20
rebreather divers keep getting dashed by the pile of bodies you idiots =
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class=3D745163510-03102001><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>Every time I see a moron like you post something like =
this I am=20
even more grateful that I do not ever have to tolerate jerks like you =
diving=20
with me or around me, and that we have mandated a "no IANTD" policy for =
training=20
on the Halcyon RB 80. </FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D745163510-03102001><FONT
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color=3D#0000ff>You idiots keep believing the lie, keep burying people, =
and keep=20
reminding us of how stupid you really are. Go back to the =
rebreather list=20
with the rest of the deluded. You weenies die doing dives that =
barely=20
require a single tank and open water gear, yet the message just does not =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D745163510-03102001><FONT
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color=3D#0000ff>Your bullshit will not be tolerated =
here.</FONT> <FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff>Hypoxia dulls the upper level brain =
functions first,=20
and then you don't have the capacity to make any decisions about what =
happens=20
next. You are really a complete ass and I for one will not tolerate your =

bullshit on here. You are a dangerous idiot like the rest over there, a =
do=20
nothing, a big "expert", and part of the =
problem.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=3D745163510-03102001> </SPAN>----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Scott Cherf=20
[mailto:cherf@ci*.co*]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 02, 2001
9:18=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> cam@ca*.co*<BR><B>Cc:</B> Trey;=20
Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com<BR><B>Subject:</B>
<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR><?fontfamily><?param Courier_New>From:=20
  [mailto:cam@ca*.co*]<BR>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:04 =
PM<BR>To:=20
  Trey; wkpp@ya*.co*<BR>Cc: Techdiver@Aquanaut.Com<BR>Subject: =
Re:=20
  [wkpp] George is right again<BR><BR>Cam Banks=20
  said:<BR><BR><?/fontfamily>>>>><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE><?fontfamily><?param Courier_New>It'd be interesting to =
ask all=20
    the people who want to own a <BR>rebreather if they've ever had the=20
    experience of passing out from <BR>hypoxia. It's quick, and gives no =

   
warning.<BR><?/fontfamily></BLOCKQUOTE><<<<<BR><BR>Ca
m=20
  -<BR><BR>Have you ever passed out? From your description it seems you=20
  haven't.<BR><BR>Hypoxia is not 'quick' and in does give warning. The =
warning=20
  signs are<BR>variable, but usually include loss of color perception, =
tunnel=20
  vision,<BR>impaired motor skills and 'giddyness' for lack of a better=20
  word.<BR><BR>I took high altitude flight training at NAS Lemore every =
3 years=20
  to maintain<BR>my rating with NASA. We did chamber runs as part of the =

  training and those<BR>runs had the specific intent to train us to =
recognize=20
  the onset of hypoxia.<BR>There are=20
warnings.<BR><BR>Scott.<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BO
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