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David, I have the smaller bungywing in my garage. I think it's 50 pounds of lift or something. Before I got the Halcyon wing I used it with just 4 bungies on it that were extremely loose, just to kind of hold it in place but not put any pull on the bladder. The other thing you have to do is to turn the wing around and bring the hose over your shoulder, not under, so you can still vent. I would say, just face it, you blew it, you bought a piece of crap (just like I did) because you didn't do your research, so buy a new wing and chalk it up to experience. However, if you have to, on a non serious dive with a good buddy you can get away with using it. But why would you want to when you can sell it on ebay. Mine's going up as soon as I have some free time, it's already boxed up. Cheers. David Burnworth wrote: ~ >Question: Do the bungeed wings perform wel lwithout the bungees? Or are >they still not recommended. I understand the arguments against the bungees >and tend to agree, but jsut wonder how the wings themselves perform without >bungees. > >D Burnworth >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Matthias Voss" <mat.voss@t-*.de*> >To: "terry michael" <OEA51@go*.co*> >Cc: "Kevin Rottner" <kevin@So*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> >Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 7:17 AM >Subject: Re: Bungee Wings of Death > > >> Yes, >> I guess now this was what Kevin wanted to say, but I first did not >> understand it that way. >> Matthias >> >> terry michael schrieb: >> > >> > Yea, lost me too on that last one. >> > It's common sense to me that positioning is compromised when, for >example: you have a 14amp canister light and are diving double aluminum's >with partially empty stages. If the wing is restricted (bungee) the diver is >unable to compensate and will struggle to remain upright. You need to be >able to "move the bubble" to where it's needed to "balance the rig". You >can't do that with bondage wings. >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: "Matthias Voss"<mat.voss@t-*.de*> >> > To: "Kevin Rottner"<kevin@So*.co*> >> > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >> > Date: Wed Sep 26 01:18:58 PDT 2001 >> > Subject: Re: Bungee Wings of Death >> > >> > >Can you be more specific on this , Kevin ? >> > > >> > >I thought the momentum created is defined by force ( up or down) x >> > >distance between where the force is applied and axis of rotaion, which >> > >will be very close to the center of gravity ( to be exact, to the >> > >meta-center in an immersed body) >> > > >> > >So the closer the up and down forces are to the diver , the less >> > >momentum they create ( SS backplates, single bottle wings, no oversize >> > >wings) >> > > >> > >What did I not get right ? >> > > >> > >Matthias >> > > >> > >Kevin Rottner schrieb: >> > >> 5. The bands hold the bladder closer to the diver, closer to the >center of >> > >> gravity, this can effect roll, and making some positions more >difficult. >> > >-- >> > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> > >> > ___________________________________________________ >> > GO.com Mail >> > Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com >> -- >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Paul B. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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