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Hi List, David, bungied wings are invariably too big. For instance, the OMS twin wing is 100 lb lift. I had one, and I took off the bungies. It was like a manta ray and caused alot of rolling, even with twin 100 fabers. Hence, I swapped it with some one who wanted a bungy style. We use 55 to 65 lb wings even with twin 100's and two stages. With a balanced rig you just don't need the lift of that huge wing, and as I said it is hopeless with the bungies off. In short, they are hopeless with or without the bungies. I spent alot of money on shit B4 I found DIR. Halcyon makes the correct wing for every occasion. Jeff the Darwinian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Burnworth" <xlh883@ea*.ne*> Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Bungee Wings of Death > Question: Do the bungeed wings perform wel lwithout the bungees? Or are > they still not recommended. I understand the arguments against the bungees > and tend to agree, but jsut wonder how the wings themselves perform without > bungees. > > D Burnworth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthias Voss" <mat.voss@t-*.de*> > To: "terry michael" <OEA51@go*.co*> > Cc: "Kevin Rottner" <kevin@So*.co*>; <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 7:17 AM > Subject: Re: Bungee Wings of Death > > > > Yes, > > I guess now this was what Kevin wanted to say, but I first did not > > understand it that way. > > Matthias > > > > terry michael schrieb: > > > > > > Yea, lost me too on that last one. > > > It's common sense to me that positioning is compromised when, for > example: you have a 14amp canister light and are diving double aluminum's > with partially empty stages. If the wing is restricted (bungee) the diver is > unable to compensate and will struggle to remain upright. You need to be > able to "move the bubble" to where it's needed to "balance the rig". You > can't do that with bondage wings. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "Matthias Voss"<mat.voss@t-*.de*> > > > To: "Kevin Rottner"<kevin@So*.co*> > > > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > > > Date: Wed Sep 26 01:18:58 PDT 2001 > > > Subject: Re: Bungee Wings of Death > > > > > > >Can you be more specific on this , Kevin ? > > > > > > > >I thought the momentum created is defined by force ( up or down) x > > > >distance between where the force is applied and axis of rotaion, which > > > >will be very close to the center of gravity ( to be exact, to the > > > >meta-center in an immersed body) > > > > > > > >So the closer the up and down forces are to the diver , the less > > > >momentum they create ( SS backplates, single bottle wings, no oversize > > > >wings) > > > > > > > >What did I not get right ? > > > > > > > >Matthias > > > > > > > >Kevin Rottner schrieb: > > > >> 5. The bands hold the bladder closer to the diver, closer to the > center of > > > >> gravity, this can effect roll, and making some positions more > difficult. > > > >-- > > > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > ___________________________________________________ > > > GO.com Mail > > > Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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