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Subject: OT -- Liability Litigation was Re: Justafish, Justafish, Justafish...
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 12:56:37 -0400
From: Bill Wolk <BillWolk@ea*.ne*>
To: "Rodriguez" <mikey@ma*.co*>, "Chris Elmore" <elmorec@at*.ne*>
cc: "Techdiver" <Techdiver@aquanaut.com>, <FlTechDiver@mikey.net>
Mike -

I see the "state of liability litigation" as you put it from the other 
side: I have seen countless ordinary, innocent people harmed by the 
actions of others who can't seek redress because of ill-thought out and 
ill-enacted tort "reform" laws that only protect multibillion dollar 
insurance companies, government, and businesses.  I frequently represent 
elderly people -- parents and grandparents -- abused in nursing homes, 
some of whom have been literally allowed to starve or rot to death 
through neglect -- and it turns my stomach when I hear those same nursing 
homes say to the Florida legislature they need "reform" because they're 
being sued.  If they didn't kill people, I couldn't sue them.  If they 
followed the law, I couldn't sue them.  If they met the MINIMUM standards 
set by the Federal government, I couldn't sue them.  They haven't asked 
the state to help them to do better; they've asked the state to insulate 
them from responsibility FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS so they can make more 
money by hurting other people.  That's just wrong.

I strongly believe in personal responsibility -- personal responsibility 
for techdivers and others who are engaged in dangerous sports to bear the 
results of their own mistakes -- and so do Courts in the State of Florida 
where liability waivers are universally upheld. I also believe in the 
other side of personal responsibility -- responsibility for the harm I do 
to others.  Tort "reformers" seem to forget that part. 

Insurance Companies are still making literally BILLIONS in profits by not 
paying claims when people are hurt, and the current special interest 
backed tort "reform" laws uniformly insulate big business and big 
insurers at the expense of small businesses who are hung out to dry and 
ordinary people who are harmed. The tort crisis is a made up fantasy that 
continues to get uncritical air play because it's well funded and no one 
looks past the special interest spin.  I have, it's wrong.  

True, fair tort reform measures that protect every American will never be 
passed because of the enormous special interest money spent by large 
insurers and the largest businesses to buy largely, but not exclusively, 
Republican support. 

I make no apologies for doing everything I can to stop this continuing 
perversion of the American judicial system and for ensuring justice for 
every American no matter how rich or how poor.  I'm not here to change 
anyone's mind on the issue but I do ask that you look at the hard facts 
and hard numbers and go beyond the special interest party line to see 
just how credible their claims are before you come to a conclusion on it.

My apologies for the off topic post -- but I couldn't let this issue 
remain one sided.

Best regards -

Bill Wolk


>At 08:07 AM 9/20/2001 -0400, Chris Elmore wrote:
>
>>> > I can assure you that any diving death hurts Trey, me and all of us.
>>>
>>> You can speak for yourself and no more.  Trey's a big boy and can speak
>>for
>>> himself, as he has.  Having spoken, he can live with the results.
>>
>>Lee, I could be mistaken, I'll have to go back and ask my insurance agent
>>why they won't issue me a life policy because of the dives I do.
>
>This is not due to the actions of divers who exercise their right
>to dive any way they want to, be it safe or not.  It's due to the
>state of liability litigation in our country.  The way to fix it is
>not to restrict the people's right to do stupid things, but rather
>to restrict the litigants from winning stupid cases.
>
>We're all adults making informed decisions about the risks we take;
>We have that right, and this is a good thing.  I chose not to dive a
>rebreather because I judge the risk-benefit ratio too high *for me*.
>However, as an American, I stand by the right of others to make
>different, sometimes stupid, decisions.  If it costs me a bit more
>in insurance premiums, I consider it part of the price we all pay to
>be free while I fight the real cause of the extra expense: liability
>laws.
>
>-Mike Rodriguez
><mikey@mi*.ne*>
>http://www.mikey.net/scuba
>Pn(x) = (1/(2^n)n!)[d/dx]^n(x^2 - 1)^n
>
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Best regards --

Bill

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